Theos-Talk Archives (June 2002 Message tt00152)

Thanks Frank, for putting words in my mouth. I wonder where you heard them? 

Claiming to be a theosophist is one thing. Acting like one is quite another. 
No matter how you look at it, justifying Hitler's (and his anti-Semitic Nazi 
cohort's) initiated holocaust by blaming it on the Zionist Jews is 
unconscionable Neo Nazi propaganda. 

So, I wonder what "ideology" is attributed to me that Frank so cavalierly 
says I have? I don't remember writing anything much to this list about my 
ideas (if they can be called "ideologies") that were not purely scientific 
confirmations of theosophical metaphysics... (Other than, perhaps, my calling 
out the so called "theosophical historians" from Germany that inundated this 
and other theosophical lists last year with their prejudicial biases and 
Nazi-like anti-Jewish propaganda.) If that's "ideological," I wonder what 
Frank thinks is theosophical? Could it be that he has researched these 
statements about my so called "ideology" as thoroughly as he says he has of 
all the other anti-Jewish (or anti-Hebrew) garbage he pontificates as 
historical truth? (If I remember rightly, he defends the "Protocols of Zion" 
as being a truthful document.) Maybe Frank should be sued for libel by all 
the Jews he lumps together as "evil black magicians." Such public statements 
might even be in violation of the German Republic's anti Nazi laws. If I were 
in his country, I would welcome being sued for libel so that such 
"propaganda" could be exposed and refuted in open court. I wonder which one 
of us is making "defamation's" against people who can't defend themselves? 

Maybe "thinking members" should reread all our correspondence to this list 
and decide for themselves who is spouting non-theosophical, Nazi and Neo-Nazi 
"ideologies," who speaks the theosophical TRUTHS, who is the "fanatic," and 
who is "headless"? (Whatever that means? :-) 

Leon


In a message dated 06/24/02 7:59:32 AM, dhyana@web.de writes:

>As I learned before that is exact the nonsense I expected from the headless
>Leon.
>No arguments as ever, only defamation.
>
>For information of the thinking members:
>
>I am no Nazi and no Neo-Nazi, was not and will not be. I am a Theosophist,
>a seeker after Truth - despite the fact, that all I write is directly opposed
>to national sozialism. I was quite new to me that a Nazi or Neo-Nazi is
>someone, who is opposed to Hitler and his movement. Dot.
>With the same "logic" you can name a Theosophist a satanist.
>The Theosophists were persecuted in Germany and I am one of the very few
>people who research on this topic over many, many years, spent research
>tours through Europe to interview eyewitnesses of the time, etc. etc. 
>
>That means that I do not need any repetitional lessons from any fanatics 
like >Leon is. We should remember how much he can swindle when the topic 
turns 
>to the fake stories of his group.
>
>In fact, if we would live in the same country, I would not hesitate to
>suit Leon for libel.
>Next he says, that a Mahatma Gandhi was also a Nazi, who said the same
>in content as I in the Indian paper Harijan, November 1938. Next he says,
>HPB was a Nazi too, just because she said the TRUTH.
>
>I kindly ask the owner of this list, Eldon, to carefully think over to ban
>such guys like Leon from this list - ironically what Leon does is exactly
>the method of the Nazis.
>
>Further background information about the hidden hands behind Hitler and the
>founding of Israel as a physical state (against which f.e. a Mahatma Gandhi
>protested) is f.e. to be found in the American dissertation of Francis
>Nicosia. Primary sources like the Haavare treaty between the Jews and Hitler
>of 1933 are researched and give a quiete different view of the facts of
>history as the mosaic masonic view.
>
>Knowing this facts is for every Theosophists of most importance since it
>is not only an eye-opener for the ritual slaughter of the Arabs, but also
>an answer who defames the philantrophic Theosophists as racists and Nazis.
>It is only because the first aim of the TS to build an Universal Brotherhood
>without distinctions of race and creed etc. - what is direct opposed to the
>(anti-Jewish) dugpa spirit a la Herzl or Samuel Huntington with theri Chosen
>People ideology.
>
>There is also a big and growing peace movement in Israel who don't want
>to rob another more the land of the Palestines, but this opposition has no
>voice in the censored "free" (means free of truth) US press. I think in view
>of Leon's fanatical and headless ideology this people of the better Israel
>are Neo-Nazis, too.
>
>Frank

>----- Original Message -----
>From: <leonmaurer@aol.com>
>To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 9:12 AM
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Sharpshooting Scholars...
>
>
>Thinking theosophists beware! The only TRUTH here is that the old Nazi
>propaganda machine is still being cranked out by German Neo-Nazis who,
>under the disguise of historical scholars, have never stopped distorting the
>Secret Doctrine and doctoring history to fit their paranoid "Master Racist"
>purposes.
>
>In a message dated 06/23/02 9:46:37 AM, dhyana@web.de writes:
>
>Yes, there is much to comment on it what you wrote below.
>Compare f.e. the Gaelic Annals in the transscription of O'Connor, London,
>Philipps 1822.
>
>I have before me the German translation by Wilhlem Obermueller, Vienna,
>Cornelius Vetter 1887.
>
>The Gaelic (or Irish) Annals assure that Afghanistan was the original place
>of the old tribes.
>
>Compare furthermore the lectures of Kenneth Morris about the evolution of
>the races. In The Theosophical Path Oct. 1919 Morris reveals that according
>to theosophical information and with the key of the language the first
>settlement of the Aryan trek escaping eastward from Atlantis was Central
>Europe, at that time only a little island (the later peaks of the Alp
>mountains), were the Teutons built at first their new homes when the rest
>of the trek was wandering ahead.
>
>There exist further information that Iraq is also an ancient land were
>civilizations of old existed. It is said that during the Gulf war of George
>Bush sen. archaeologic proofs of the high age of the human race in general
>and the Aryan race in particular were the main targets and the esoteric
>(secret) reason for this war.
>
>Compare furthermore the history of Germany since Bismarck, who was helped
>by an Adept as HPB said. Bismarck was fighting terrible against the plots
>of the Jesuits and the Zionists. To help the Jews against the misuse of the
>absurd Zionist dead-letter-interpretation of the Old Testament Bismarc and
>the Prussian Government did all to help to emanzipate the Jews. In 1869 an
>act was made to allow the Jew to took every profession and every public
>office as he wants.
>
>This should help to counterfight the ascending antisemitic propaganda by
>fanatical, orthodox Jews who claimed to be a Master race, chosen by God
>and tried to materialize divine terms like Israel or Jerusalem down to Earth.
>Because in the united Germany of 1871 under Bismarck (the Jesuits in the
>Vaticans always spoke of the German peoples in the plural as they succeeded
>since centuries to cut Germany in pieces and weaken therefore its influence
>against Rome) the Jews were the most emazipated in Europe the orthodox
>or black magic Jews with lust to power over the Jews and the Goijm with the
>Rothschilds and the Jesuits in their back started a big antisemitism
>campaign to make the ordinary Jewish victim believe that he is not wanted
>in his home land and that he must emigrate.
>
>Remember how close Hitler coworked with the Zionists and was paid by them
>for the Holocaust. Without persecution of the assimilated Jews no single Jew
>would have been willing to leave a top civilized country in favor for a
>desert.
>
>Up to the present time Germany is on target by the Jews and its culture,
>language etc. is ritual slaughtered piece by piece.
>
>>From the theosophical point of view Afghanistan, Iraq and Germany are the
>oldest Aryan lands. Just chance that this three countries are the main
>targets today? By whom? Who will be the winner if all proofs of the real
>race history and the old civilizations are destroyed? Who has an interest
>in that destruction?
>
>Furthermore read what the leading American Jews like Brzsinksi, Kissinger
>etc. tell and Samuel Huntington in his gangster book "Clash of
>Civilizations". According to Huntington there exists no similarity between
>the world religions and no cooperation is possible, there exist no universal
>laws, only war can save us and "we" must be the first who shot.
>
>Here you have the counter programme to the TS and the ideological rationale
>for the recent world polics were the same forces recently try a third time
>to burn the world at its four corners.
>
>Only the defense of the Aryan wisdom and the Original Programme of the
>TS can save the Western civilization.
>
>Note that this information has nothing to do with Nazi or Neo-Nazi as the
>ordinary Jewish controlled mass media lies.
>
>There exists no real such organizations which is not controlled by the
>Jewish-Jesuitic backstage masters.
>
>The Nazi and Neo-Nazi movement were invented to COVER UP the secret Zionist
>world control programme and they protect themselves as they augmend any
>critic onto the whole Jewish race and cry: Anti-Semitism, but that is a
>bad trick, as the Jews were the first victims of the Rothschilds as well as
>the Germans were the first victims of Hitler.
>
>The Zionists do know very well that scientific research would increase
>doubts about the dead-letter historical records of the bible. As it is hard
>for them to stop scientific research it is a mucheasier way to attack any
>reseacher as an anti-semite and together with mass media propaganda he
>is socially stopped. Theosophy is the only complete system who explains the
>truth throughout - the main reason why Theosophy is under attack from that
>part.
>
>So whereever you hear a Jew cry: Anti-Semitism - the TRUTH is NEAR.
>
>Compare also the very leavel-headed analysises of Lyndon LaRouche, who has
>many Jewish co-workers who love the truth. LaRouche was jailed by the Jewish
>Washington establishment upon faked documents but was set free after many
>international protests of politicians of many countries.
>
>Frank
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