Theos-Talk Archives (June 2002 Message tt00127)

June 23 2002

Dear Friend:

No, I do not answer a question with another to be "cute."

I recognize that it is only be mutual exchanges, by "conference,' that
any advance, individually, can be achieved.

Look at our educational experience. We have been all, successively
placed in a school medium at some time. We have been placed in a
series of progressive classes where knowledge is made available to us
in steps. We are expected to remember a good deal of that as data.
So our minds are "stretched' and taught, by one method or another, to
amass memories and to sharpen and improve them. There are few courses
that are designed to tell us how to use this mass of facts.

Learning to THINK is a part of education that induces logic and
discrimination to develop as faculties we can use to process the facts
we have received.

Let look at the divisions of classes we are given:

DATA: History, Geography, our Language as grammar, The Science of
Observation, Physiology and Anatomy, Chemistry, Physics, Engineering,
Astronomy, rules and facts that are always provable and invariable.,
etc...

THINK ABOUT: all subjects that employ Creativity, and individual
effort as an essential to development -- such as : Mathematics,
Geometry, Music, Art, Logic, Ethics, Discovery, Writing, Painting,
Drawing, Interpretive arts, etc.... Add here the most essential
capacity, and the will to review all DATA and given Facts, for the
securing of a personal assurance of their truth and accuracy.

It seems to me always imperative and most important, at all stages, to
recognize that:

No one can dictate a single procedure to anyone. Neither to a group,
nor to an individual. If that is done their "free-will" may be
impaired. Recommendations for individual consideration are valuable,
and if given without coercion, they can be adopted after scrutiny.
The individual scrutiny is creative and analytically applied in the
interests of accuracy, impartiality, and universality.

This, the providing of rules and regulations, is the basis for all
sects and political parties. It has a limited use, but the Karmic
responsibility assumed by the "originator," the "leader," the "chief,"
the "President," etc... is always a great one. Prophets of the TRUE
alone assume this responsibility with a knowledge of the "GOOD" that
can be derived by individuals, who assume thereafter a self-induced
decision to apply for themselves the independent study of the laws and
rules of GREAT NATURE.

Loyalty in any human mind, invariably has to be a matter of
free-self-determination. Choice and motive are the inner tools that
every one of us, men-minds have to develop and use. They are innate
to all of us without exception.

Many think that have to be "loyal." True, it is a fine quality. But
discrimination demands we find out exactly what we are devoting our
LOYALTY to. Our Karma develops from self-choice. Choice springs from
MOTIVE. And motive is always a matter of individual responsibility
and its consequent KARMA -- which is either destructive and "evil,"
or, constructive, and "good."

Let us suppose that we think we are ignorant. We will not be able to
know the extent of our ignorance until we sit down and mediate on what
we know and what our innate powers are. What is our Will ? Where
does it reside? How does it work ? A recognition of areas of
ignorance implies there is in us something that is not at all
ignorant, and further, has the tools (mental tools) to use to find
TRUTH and FACTS.

We have in general two choices:

1.	The decision to remain ignorant, and seek for some kind of a group
or society, political party or church -- and try to shed our
responsibility by accepting and devoting ourselves to following the
rules and regulations they have set up ( are they really practiced ?)
by such a group, or,

2.	Independently finding out what our own nature and capacities are.

And in this search, we either assume we are either:

1.	transcient and evanescent mortals bound to the limitations of our
present body and personality, (which disappears at death) or,

2.	we perceive within ourselves that we are fragments of the IMMORTAL
DIVINE and UNIVERSAL ONE SELF. If we can perceive the justice and
reasonableness of this, then we KNOW that we have the "god-like"
powers to choose and to know the TRUTH of all things, and to
appreciate (after discovery) : IDEALS.

This is what THEOSOPHY as a philosophy that is scientific, logical and
religious does for each and every one who decides to become a THINKER.
We learn to integrate our IMPERISHABLE SELF with that of the world we
live in, and take active responsibility for what we do, in using our
representative: the "embodied mind," in continuing to use rote and
custom.

We discover by self-examination, whether the "rote" and the "customs"
we live by, are good, fair and impersonally impartial, -- valuable
equally for others as for ourselves. We learn to accurately
discriminate between virtue that is "all-loving" and all-giving," and
vice, which is selfish, acquisitive, impatient, authoritarian, proud,
etc... --- all restrictive powers and attitudes of isolation, that
divide us from our fellows.

The Rules and Laws of Nature can be shown to be universally impartial,
and, are always cooperative. They are the basis for all growth in
intelligence of the consciousness that is always resident in each
"form" or "personal being."

Therefore, and since the method of instruction that NATURE adopts
uniformly, is by means of self-determination, we increasingly learn to
use the position that we can "stand on our own feet." and we grant
always in action and decision, the right to others to do likewise. We
act as though justice and freedom rules the Universe, and we expect
others to know this, and do likewise.

This is why BROTHERHOOD is emphasized. In fact when all is resolved
to fundamental basics, that is the only way for cooperative life.
Assistance is the normal method of inter-service that the Universe
expects us to abide by. We have to learn to act as IMMORTALS in a
vast field of co-existing and interacting IMMORTALS. It is a vast
brotherhood, whether we recognize and like it, or not.

This is what I have learned from Theosophy. I hope this will be of
help to others if there will consider and see if it is reasonable.

Best wishes,

Dallas

-----Original Message-----
From: Mor Sufi
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 12:14 AM
To:
Subject: Re: Question, that tricks us...opinions ?


Hi Dallas and all of you,

A view:


Well Dallas now you did it again answering my question with questions
of your own.
The below answer of yours isn't really an answer.
To put it short you are sort of saying : Act wise.

I you read the email you answered you will certainly see, that you
didn't really answer my questions. Well, in fact - not at all.

So do matter and do mind.
And allright act wisely, but let us do our best.
And not as now, do really almost nothing at all on the issues
mentioned in my below email.
Well, do something towards corruption and also towards - political
corruption.

Ghandi did something.
Do your very best.
But always help and never hurt, and at least seek not to hurt if you
can't help.

To all of you: Feel free to comment on the issues and do your best.


from
Sufi