Theos-Talk Archives (March 2002 Message tt00276)

Tuesday, March 12, 2002

Dear Leon:

Well said. And with so much force and reason. Much better than
I could have said it.

Many thanks

Dallas

-----Original Message-----
From: leonmaurer@aol.com [mailto:leonmaurer@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:31 PM
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Theos-World Dallas's "7-fold scheme ", 3/11/02.


In a message dated 03/12/02 3:18:01 PM, bri_mue@yahoo.com writes:

>Dallas: "the Mahatma, in one of the letters
>published in the Occult World, says that matter is
>indestructible "
>
>Brig.: I showed clearly in my postings the previous 4 days that
this
>is dualism and spiritual materialism at best, including that it
>defies all common sense. Dallas on the other hand still has not
>provided any proof reg, anything of what he posted the last 4
days,
>just over and over the same copied quotes that have been
appearing on
>this list many times over. List members have to take it solely
on
>faith and belief.
(snip)

That's baloney.

Clearly showed? I wonder where your prejudiced ideas are coming
from? What
happened to the fundamental law upon which all modern science is
based, that
says, "Energy can neither be created nor destroyed"? If, as
Einstein proved,
energy is matter, then, how does Dallas' statement "defy all
common sense" --
when it is perfectly consistent with the underlying basis of
commonly a
ccepted physical science?

Wow... Does all your pontifications come off the same wall as
this one? How
are you so sure that all members of this list are childish
morons, who can't
think for themselves, or can't form their own opinions after
adequate study
and consideration of the ideas and "theories" about the nature of
universal
reality that Dallas quotes? Have you a better theory? I'm sure,
if
necessary, we can quote many respected contemporary scientists
(from Bohr
through Bohm, Wheeler and Heisenberg, to Sarfatti) who consider
their
theories metaphysically and physically consistent with many of
the "ancient"
ideas reported and commented on by HPB. To get some idea of
what's going on
in modern science with relation to its unanswered questions or
'hard
problems", and the new paradigms (some completely metaphysical)
suggested to
answer them, perhaps you should read the past twelve year
archives of the
Journal of Consciousness Study, Quantum Mind, Psyche-L and D, and
many other
online e-mail forums open to scientists and philosophers of all
disciplines
interested in the study of consciousness -- rather than base your
opinions on
information published in the popular press and general literature
media.

So, what makes you the final expert on everything physical and
metaphysical
that we all have to take solely on faith and belief? Why should
we believe
that you (and your selectively referenced authors to allegedly
"prove" your
point) know what you're all talking about? Do you think that
this
propaganda-like quoting from your own writings in endless
repetition is
finally going to knock us all over in blind belief of all your
pontifications
and edicts?

I ask again, how can you falsify a metaphysical theory, that
explains
everything (including all that conventional physical science
CANNOT explain)
without coming up with an equally consistent and comprehensive
"unified field
theory of everything" that includes both metaphysical and
physical truths as
seen from both points of view?

Maybe you'll understand what we (occultists and real
theosophists) are
talking about, whenever you learn to read mystical and
metaphysical textbooks
"between the lines and in the words," ignoring all the side paths
and
"blinds" added for the "profane," and stop relying on the
historical opinions
and interpretations of other, self designated "experts," and
"authorities"
who look at everything with a prejudiced materialistic bias, and
can't see
the forest for the trees.

LHM