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RE: Theos-World Big Bang?

Mar 01, 2002 04:41 AM
by dalval14

Tuesday, February 26, 2002

Re: Beginnings of Evolution -- Was there a BIG BANG ?

You concluded: "Life comes from life."

Tuesday, February 26, 2002


Dear Terrie:

I think you are quite right in your conclusion that everything in
existence has a cause and a start somewhere. If we have "life"
now, then it came from a previous "living."

Every being, man included begins "living" at some time. There
are many degrees and stages of living and some are not always
visible. For instance a wish, a feeling or a thought are
invisible, but they are real and carry with them the power of the
being that generated them.

A couple of thousand years ago, perhaps older still, the Great
Teacher Hermes of Egypt is reputed in his books to have said: "A
stone becomes a plant; a plant becomes an animal; an animal
becomes a man, and, a Man becomes a "God." Never has any being

Evolution is the development of consciousness ever forward, ever
expanding to the infinite.

The great wonder is that the evolutionary panorama we witness
today is so diverse that it forces us to consider that there is a
universal MIND that has worked out the details in advance, and is
now implementing this enormous plan, which, in a most sensitive
way, sees to and adjusts the progress of every thing -- from
"Atom" to "Galaxy." In the East the Hindu philosophers called
this "Karma."

This should lead us to conclude that behind this great
intelligence there is purpose.

Purpose demands cooperation, and the developing intelligences of
all individual beings. There is to be seen always present the
tendency to interact for the benefit of all as a UNIT. Not
everyone sees this, because we are so caught up in diversity, and
in analysis. We overemphasize differences instead of comparing
correspondences and analogies. Nature is said to be supremely
economic, and uses analogy and correspondence all the time in her
assistance to the many diverse units whose life she supports --
as for instance from the ameba to the Whale, or the Atom to the
Earth and the Universe as a whole.

Here are some of the statements made in Theosophical doctrine and
history concerning this. I hope this will interest you and you
will take a little time to look it over. If there are more
questions, do not hesitate to ask further.

best wishes,




To begin with, it ought to be made clear that Theosophy is that
ocean of knowledge which spreads from shore to shore of the
evolution of sentient beings; unfathomable in its deepest parts,
it gives the greatest minds their fullest scope, yet, shallow
enough at its shores, it will not overwhelm the understanding of
a child.

It is Wisdom, for it is the science of sciences.

It is therefore complete in itself and sees no unsolvable mystery
anywhere. It throws the word coincidence out of its vocabulary.
It hails the reign of law in everything and every circumstance.

It is not a belief or dogma formulated or invented by man, but is
a knowledge of the laws which govern the evolution of the
physical, astral, psychical, and intellectual constituents of
nature and of man.

Theosophy knows that the whole is constituted of the visible and
the invisible, and perceiving outer things and objects to be
transitory, it grasps the facts, and causes of nature, both
without and within.

The vast array of objects and men are not mere collections of
atoms fortuitously thrown together and thus without law evolving
law, but down to the smallest atom all is soul and spirit ever
evolving under the rule of law which is inherent in the whole.

Theosophy teaches that the course of evolution is the drama of
the soul and that nature exists for no other purpose than the
soul's experience. And so it is with the Universe, which is the
reincarnation of an earlier Universe. And our Earth which is a
reincarnation of the "Moon." Nature never does anything by fits
and starts, hence the appearance of our physical Universe is the
result of evolutionary processes that have taken place on more
ancient, and in some cases, planes of matter that are presently
invisible to us.

There was no "Big Bang" whereby our Universe emerged, all of a
sudden, from some mysterious point or as the product of some
unbelievably vast explosion. But The SECRET DOCTRINE (see Vol.
I) teaches that under the Law of Universal karma then physical
emerged simultaneously out of the plane of the invisible into the
plane of the material substance we know. From the invisible
"astral" matter the "solid matter" became manifest, and this
"solid matter" (which in effect includes the invisible air,
gasses, vapors, heat, light, electricity, sound, and other forces
is in fact a condensation of that "astral" substance made up of
still more subtle forces and powers.


The Theosophist agrees with the wise Prof. Huxley in the
assertion that there must be beings in the universe whose
intelligence is as much beyond ours as ours exceeds that of the
black beetle. And those possessing such advanced intelligence
naturally take an active and cooperative part in the government
of the natural order of things. They are the active, and wise
assistants of Nature, [which is a name given to the UNIVERSE] as
a whole. The Theosophist adds that such Wise Sages are
Intelligences which were once human, and came like all of us from
other and previous worlds.

The most intelligent being in the universe, man, has never, been
without a friend, but has a line of Elder Brothers who
continually watch over the progress of the less progressed,
preserve the knowledge gained through aeons of trial and
experience, and continually seek for opportunities of drawing the
developing intelligence of the race to consider the great truths
concerning the destiny of the soul.

We are therefore not appearing for the first time when we come
upon this planet, but have pursued a long, an immeasurable course
of activity and intelligent perception on other systems of
globes, some of which were destroyed ages before the solar system


This immense reach of the evolutionary system means, that this
planet on which we now are, is the result of the activity and the
evolution of some earlier one that died long ago. It left its
energy to be used in the bringing into existence the earth.
Further, the inhabitants of the Earth, in their turn, came from
some older world. They are now proceeding with their destined
work in the "matter" we are familiar with here.

The Elder Brothers of the human race, keep the knowledge they
have gained of the laws of nature in all departments, and are
ready when cyclic law permits to use it for the benefit of
mankind. They have always existed as a body, all knowing each
other, no matter in what part of the world they may be, and all
working for the race in many different ways. [see ISIS UNVEILED,
Vol. 2, pp. 98-103]

They have stood by the cradle of nations and seen the vast
achievements of the ancients, watched sadly the decay of those
who had no power to resist the cyclic law of rise and fall; and
while cataclysms seemed to show a universal destruction of art,
architecture, religion, and philosophy, they have preserved the
records of it all, in places secure from the ravages of either
men or time. They have made minute observations, through trained
psychics among their own order, into the unseen realms of nature
and of mind, recorded the observations, and have preserved the
record. And, greater feat than all -- one which implies a
knowledge of the very foundations of nature -- they know what the
ultimate divisions of time are and what are the meaning and the
times of the cycles. [ see SECRET DOCTRINE Vol. I, pp. 272-3 ]


Under cyclic law, during a dark period in the history of mind,
the true philosophy disappears for a time, but the same law
causes it to reappear. It is the Master's work to preserve the
true philosophy, but the help of the companions is needed to
rediscover and promulgate it.

The periods, when out of the Great Unknown there comes forth the
visible universes, are eternal in their coming and going. These
alternate with equal periods of silence and rest in that Unknown.
The object of these mighty waves is the production of Perfect
Man, the evolution of Soul, and they always witness the increase
of the number of Elder Brothers. The Elder Brothers are the
highest product of evolution through whom alone, in cooperation
with the whole human family, the further regular and workmanlike
prosecution of the plans of the Great Architect of the Universe
can be carried on. The Sanskrit "Mahatma" best identifies them.
It means "Great Soul," and as all men are Souls, the distinction
of the Mahatma lies in greatness.


The teachings of Theosophy deal for the present with our earth,
although its purview extends to all the worlds, since no part of
the manifested universe is outside the single body of laws which
operate upon us. Our globe being one of the solar system is
certainly connected with other planets, but as the great human
family has to remain with its material vehicle -- the earth --
until all the units of the race which are ready, are perfected,
the evolution of that family is of greater importance to the
members of it.


The universe evolves from the unknown, on seven planes, and in
seven ways in all worlds. And this sevenfold differentiation
causes all the worlds of the universe, and the beings thereon, to
have a septenary constitution.

The divisions of the sevenfold universe may be laid down roughly
as: The Absolute, Spirit, Mind, Matter, Will, Akasa or AEther,
and Life. In place of "the Absolute" we can use the word "Space."
For "Space" is that which ever is, and in which all manifestation
must take place.

Our knowledge begins with differentiation, and all manifested
objects, beings, or powers are only differentiations of the Great

The most that can be said of the Absolute" is that IT
periodically differentiates itself, and periodically withdraws
the differentiated into itself. As to "the Absolute," we can do
no more than say IT IS. None of the Great Teachers of the School
ascribe qualities to "the Absolute," although all qualities exist
in It.

The first differentiation -- speaking metaphysically as to
time -- is Spirit, with which appears Matter and Mind. This is a
Unit, and, called the "Monad." [ In manifestation, it is a
triune Unity, consisting of: ATMA-BUDDHI-MANAS, or, Spirit -
Wisdom - Mind] The Monad is held to be immortal throughout the
great life-cycle, whether Manvantara or Kalpa. It is the basis
for human Individuality.

The ancient teaching always held, as is now admitted by Science,
that we see or perceive only the phenomena but not the essential
nature, cause, or being of those powers and forces that cause
"solid" Matter to appear..


Mind (the Universal Mind or Mahat) is the intelligent part of the
Cosmos. In the collection of seven differentiations roughly
sketched above, Universal Mind is that in which the Plan of the
Cosmos is fixed or contained. This Plan is brought over from a
prior period of manifestation, which added to its ever-increasing
perfectness as it proceeds. No limit can be set to its
evolutionary possibilities in perfectness, because, as there was
never any beginning to the periodical manifestations of "the
Absolute," there never will be an end, but forever the going
forth and withdrawing into the Unknown will go on.

Wherever a world or system of worlds is evolving there the Plan
has been laid down in Universal Mind, the original force comes
from Spirit, the basis is Matter -- which is in fact invisible --
Life sustains all the forms, and Akasa is the connecting link
between Matter on one side and Spirit-Mind on the other.


The real age of the world has long been involved in doubt for
Western investigators, who up to the present have shown
unwillingness to take instruction from the records of Oriental
people much older than the West. Yet with the Orientals is the
truth about the matter.

It is admitted that Egyptian civilization flourished many
centuries ago, and there are no living Egyptian schools of
ancient learning to offend modern pride. The inscriptions cut in
rocks and written on papyri or ancient books, obtain a little
more credit today than the living thought and record of the
Hindus, Tibetans, Mayans and Chinese Those races and their
traditions, are still among us, and it would never do to admit
that such ancient, and recently conquered races, possesses
knowledge respecting the age of man and his world which the
"West" still knows nothing of.

But the Master Theosophists know what is to be the resurrection
of the old pyramid builders of the Nile valley, and where the
plans of those ancient master masons have been hidden from the
profane eyes until the cycle should roll round again for their
bringing forth. When Egypt and India were younger there was a
constant intercourse between them. They both, thought alike, but
fate ruled that of the two the Hindus only should preserve the
old ideas among a living people.


No mind can comprehend the "Infinite and Absolute Unknown," which
IS, has no beginning and shall have no end; which IS both last
and first, because, whether differentiated or withdrawn into
ITSELF, IT ever is. This is the "God" spoken of as the one around
whose pavilion there is darkness.

This cosmic and human chronology of the Hindus may still be
laughed at by western Orientalists and Scientists, yet they can
furnish nothing better and are continually disagreeing with each
other on the same subject. As years pass since Theosophy was
promulgated, Science has come closer in their estimates to the
figures of the Oriental chronology. The Brahmanical records of
Hindustan, and their doctrine about the days, nights, years and
life of Brahma, who representing the universe and the worlds, at
once upset the interpretation so long given to the Mosaic
tradition, insofar as time is concerned.

The Day of Brahma is said to last one thousand years, and his
night is of equal length. This may be construed to be a statement
of the periodical coming forth, for great days and nights of
equal length of the universe of manifested worlds. A Day of
Brahma is made up of what are called Manvantaras -- or period
between two men -- fourteen in number. These include four billion
three hundred and twenty million mortal, or earth years, which is
one Day of Brahma. [4,320,000,000 years] And Brahma's "Night" is
of similar duration, when all is periodically withdrawn into the
"Unknown Absolute."

When this day opens, cosmic evolution, so far as relates to this
solar system, begins and occupies between one and two billions of
years in evolving the very ethereal first matter before the
astral kingdoms of mineral, vegetable, animal and men are


In these the, very distant and very silent past, Man could not
have his bodily temple to live in, until all the matter in and
about his world had been found by the Master, the spiritual and
eternal Inner Man. Once found, the plans for working it required
to be carried out in detail, until all the parts should be
perfectly ready and fit for placing in the final structure.

This is the gradual coming forth of the known and heterogeneous
from the unknown and homogeneous. The ancient Egyptian and Hindu
Theosophists never admitted a creation out of nothing, but ever
strenuously insisted upon evolution, by gradual stages. All the
various powers and potentialities needed, had to be well worked
out in this slow but sure process. At last man is put upon the
scene: a sevenfold being, a miniature of the universe and earth,
which are sevenfold.

Each of Man's seven principles is derived from one of the great
first seven divisions. And each relates to a planet, by analogy,
or a scene of evolution; and to a race in which that evolution
was carried out. So the first sevenfold differentiation is
important to be borne in mind, since it is the basis of all that
follows; just as the universal evolution is septenary so the
evolution of humanity, sevenfold in its constitution, is carried
out upon a septenary Earth. This is spoken of in Theosophical
literature as the Sevenfold Planetary Chain, and is intimately
connected with Man's special evolution. [see SECRET DOCTRINE Vol.
I, pp. 570-574]


This second step takes some three hundred millions of years, and
then still more material processes go forward for the production
of the tangible (physical matter) kingdoms of nature, including
man. This covers over one and one-half billions of years. And the
number of solar years included in the present "human" period is
over eighteen millions of years. [SECRET DOCTRINE Vol. I, pp.
150, footnote]

During all these ages before man's physical body came into being,
evolution was carrying on the work of perfecting various powers
which are now our possession. This was accomplished by the Ego or
Real Man going through experience in countless conditions of
matter, all different one from the other, and the same plan in
general was and is pursued as prevails in respect to the general
evolution of the universe.

That is, details were first worked out in spheres of being very
ethereal, metaphysical, in fact. Then the next step brought the
same details to be worked out on a plane of matter a little more
dense, until at last it could be done on our present plane of
what we miscall "gross matter." This is called the "descent of
Spirit into Matter."

When the rough work was completed, when the human "temple" was
erected, many more ages were required for all the servants, and
the councilors to learn their parts, so that man, the Master,
might be able to use the physical temple for its best and highest
purposes. Theosophy alone, inclusive of all systems and every
experience, gives the key, the plan, the doctrine, the truth of
these great natural processes.

To state it in another way. The Plan comes first in the Universal
Mind, after which the astral model or basis is made, and when
that astral model is completed, the whole process is gone over so
as to condense the matter, up to the middle of the Fourth Round.

In the vast stretch of time which began after the first almost
intangible matter had been gathered and kneaded, the material and
vegetable kingdoms had sole possession here with the Master --
man -- who was hidden from sight, within, carrying forward the
plans for the foundations of the human temple. All of this
requires many, many ages, since we know that nature never leaps.

It is stated that the stream of Monads begins first to work up
the mass of matter in what are called elemental conditions when
all is gaseous or fiery. For the ancient and true theory is that
no evolution is possible without the "Monads" as the innumerable
vivifying agents. In this first stage there is no animal or
vegetable. Next comes the mineral when the whole mass hardens,
the Monads being all imprisoned within. Then the first Monads
emerge into vegetable forms which they construct themselves, and
no animals yet appear. Next the first class of Monads emerges
from the vegetable and gradually produce the animal forms. Then,
the human astral and shadowy model is constructed, and we have
minerals, vegetables, animals and future men, for the second and
later classes are still evolving in the lower kingdoms.

Upon this earth and upon the whole chain of Globes of which it is
a part seven races of men appeared simultaneously, coming over to
it from other globes of an older chain. And in respect to this
earth -- the fourth of this chain -- these seven races came
simultaneously from another Globe of this chain. This appearance
of seven races together happens in the first and in part of the
second Round of the globes. In the second round the seven masses
of beings are amalgamated, and their destiny after that is to
slowly differentiate during the succeeding rounds until at the
seventh round the seven first great races will be once more
distinct, as perfect types of the human race as this period of
evolution will allow. At the present time the seven races are
mixed together, and representatives of all are in the many
so-called races of men as classified by our present science. The
object of this amalgamation and subsequent differentiation is to
give to every race the benefit of the progress and power of the
whole derived from prior progress in other planets and systems.

For Nature never does her work in a hasty or undue fashion, but,
by the sure method of mixture, precipitation, and separation,
brings about the greatest perfection. And this method was one
known to the Alchemists, though not fully understood in all its
bearings even by them. But there is no vagueness on the point
that seven great "Races, or types" have to evolve here on this
planet, and that the entire collection of races has to go seven
times round the whole series of seven Globes.

When the middle of the Fourth Round is reached no more Monads
emerge into the human stage, and will not until a new planetary
mass, reincarnated from ours, is made. This is the whole process
roughly given, but with many details left out, for in one of the
Rounds man appears before the animals. But this detail need lead
to no confusion.

What has become at last "man" is of vastly greater age, for
before the present two sexes appeared, the human creature was
sometimes of one shape and sometimes of another, until the whole
plan had been fully worked out into our present form, function,
and capacity.

This is found referred to in ancient books, where man is said to
have been at one time globular in shape. This was at a time when
the conditions favored such a form, and of course, it was longer
ago than eighteen millions of years. And when this globular form
was the rule, the sexes as we know them, had not differentiated
and hence there was but one sex, or if one prefers, no sex at

Human beings did not appear here in two sexes first. The first
were of no sex, then they altered into hermaphrodite, and lastly
separated into male and female. And this separation into male and
female for human beings was over 18,000,000 years ago. For that
reason is it said, in these ancient schools, that our humanity is
18,000,000 years old and a little over.


In these early conditions and states, the senses existed in germ,
as it were, or in idea, until the astral plane which is next to
this one was first arrived at, and then they were concentrated so
as to become the actual senses we now use through the agency of
the outer physical organs.

These outer organs of sight, touch and hearing, smelling and
tasting, are often mistaken by the unlearned or the thoughtless
for the real organs and senses; but he who stops to think, must
see that the senses are interior, and that their outer organs are
but mediators, or links, between the visible universe and the
real perceiver within.


Considering our Earth, the view put forward by Theosophy
regarding its genesis, its evolution and the evolution of the
Human, Animal and other Monads, is quite different from modern
ideas, and in some things contrary to accepted theories. We find
that the Scientific theories of today are not stable. They change
with each century, while the Theosophical one never alters. It
is the result of age-old and continuous verification by the Elder
Brothers. These have now caused its repromulgation and pointed
to its confirmation in ancient books and traditions. To them, it
is a statement of facts in nature. The modern Scientific theories
in an attempt to speculatively rebuild an unknown past, are, on
the contrary, always doubtful, changeable, and continually
altered. There are continuous attempts to secure proof of these
theories, but nothing has proved conclusive so far.


The sevenfold Earth is a living oneness -- a sentient entity --
and not a mere lump of gross matter. Being an entity of a
septenary nature, there must be six other Globes which roll with
it in space.

This company of seven Globes has been called the "Earth Chain,"
or, the "Planetary Chain." To make this concept clear Theosophy
states: The earth is one of seven globes, in respect to man's
consciousness only, because when he functions on one of the seven
he perceives it as a distinct globe and does not see the other

This is in perfect correspondence with man himself who has six
other constituents of which only the gross body is visible to him
because he is now functioning on the physical Earth, or the
fourth Globe -- and his body represents the Earth. We have a
statement that these Globes are united in one mass, each
interpenetrating the others, but differing from each other in
substance, and, that this difference of substance is due to
change of center of consciousness. To explain further:

The whole seven "Globes" constitute one single mass or Great
Globe, and they all interpenetrate each other. We have to say
"Globe," because the ultimate shape is globular or spherical.

In studying the diagrams used in the Secret Doctrine to
illustrate the scheme, one has to pay close attention to the
accompanying explanations and cautions given by H. P. Blavatsky.
Both she and her Adept teachers say, that the seven globes of our
chain are in "coadunition with each other but not in
consubstantiality." [Secret Doctrine, Vol. I, p. 166, 200] This
is further enforced by cautions not to rely on statistics, or
plane surface diagrams, but to look at the metaphysical and
spiritual aspect of the theory as stated in English.


The Earth Chain of seven Globes as thus defined is the direct
reincarnation of a former chain of seven Globes, and that former
family of seven was the Moon chain, the moon itself being the
visible representative of the fourth Globe of the old chain.

When that former vast entity composed of the Moon and six others,
all united in one mass, reached its limit of life, it died just
as any being dies. Each one of the seven sent its energies into
space and gave similar life or vibration to cosmic dust --
matter, -- and the total cohesive force of the whole kept the
seven energies together. [ see SECRET DOCTRINE Vol. I pp.
152-154, 171-181 ]

This resulted in the evolving of the present Earth Chain of seven
centers of energy or evolution combined in one mass. As the Moon
was the fourth of the old series it is on the same plane of
perception as the Earth, and as we are now confined in our
consciousness largely to Earth, we are only able to see one of
the old seven -- our Moon. When we are functioning on any of the
other seven planes of consciousness, we will perceive the
corresponding old corpse as a Moon.


The stream or mass of Egos which evolves on the seven Globes of
our chain is limited in number, yet the actual quantity is
enormous. For though the universe is limitless and infinite, yet
in any particular portion of Cosmos in which manifestation and
evolution have begun, there is a limit to the extent of
manifestation and to the number of Egos engaged therein.


The whole number of Monads now going through evolution on our
Earth Chain came over from the old seven Globes which I have
described. This mass of Egos has also been called a "life wave,"
meaning the stream of Monads. [ see SECRET DOCTRINE Vol. I pp
171-175 ]

It reached this planetary mass, represented to our consciousness
by our central point -- our Earth, and began on Globe A or No. I,
coming like an army, or river. This journey went on for four
circlings round the whole, and then the whole stream or army of
Egos from the old Moon Chain had arrived, and being complete, no
more entered after the middle of the Fourth Round.

The same circling process of these differently arrived classes
goes on for seven complete "Rounds" of the whole seven planetary
centers of consciousness, and when the seven are ended as much
perfection as is possible in the immense period occupied, will
have been attained, and then this chain or mass of "Globes" will
die in its turn to give birth to still another series.

The Round is a circling of the seven centers [Globes] of
planetary consciousness. [ S D I 200 ]


Each one of the Globes is used by evolutionary law for the
development of seven "Races," and of senses, faculties and powers
appropriate to that state of matter. (the experience of the whole
seven Globes being needed to make a perfect development in man's
consciousness and character).

Upon this earth and upon the whole chain of Globes of which it is
a part seven races of men appeared simultaneously, their destiny
is to slowly differentiate during the succeeding rounds until at
the seventh round the seven first great races will be once more
distinct, as perfect types of the human race as this period of
evolution will allow. At the present time the seven races are
mixed together, and representatives of all are in the many
so-called races of men as classified by our present science. The
object of this amalgamation and subsequent differentiation is to
give to every race the benefit of the progress and power of the
whole derived from prior progress in other planets and systems.
For Nature never does her work in a hasty or undue fashion, but,
by the sure method of mixture, precipitation, and separation,
brings about the greatest perfection.

But when the last, the seventh Race has appeared and fully
perfected itself, in the 7th Round and the 7th Globe, a great
dissolution comes on, similar to that which preceded the birth of
the earth's chain. Then the world disappears as a tangible thing,
and so far as the human ear is concerned there is silence. This,
it is said, is the root of the belief so general, that the world
will come to an end, that there will be a judgment-day, or that
there have been in the past, universal floods, earthquakes,
submergences of continents, or fires.

Subsequent to that, which is our future, the whole mass is
spiritualized with full consciousness and the entire body of
globes raised up to a higher plane of development.

[Extracted in part from the OCEAN OF THEOSOPHY -- W Q Judge



-----Original Message-----
From: Terrie H N
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 9:58 AM
Subject: Big Bang?


I think about the "big bang" sometimes AND the olde
"life comes from life" in terms of thinking of the
physics of a "big bang" as "the" birthing process of
life/life sciences -ya know? Very interesting
speculation, especially regarding the usual
birth/process requirements known to be mostly firmly
attached to the living we live, thusly stated:
fertile/fertility, fertilization, development and
labor - this, maybe, bodes an enormous amount of
prior existence AND activity.

So, I begin to wonder, does something come from
something and/or nothing? And, along these lines,
would dead/death really come before life -WELL- dead
things do not truly seem to be producing life rather
they seem, in part, to be resulting from the life
processes themselves AND (very much it seems) life
feeds on/births out of its dead/death -SO- it seems
more likely to me that life is more truly 1st
process/position AND further than that that dead/death
is 2nd therefore c/wouldn't be 1st step prior, in the
grand orchestration of life itself -OR- at least, at
the moment, that's what I'm currently
"Life comes from life."

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