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Re: Theos-World Atma is Maya

Feb 28, 2002 06:37 PM
by Steve Stubbs

--- wrote:
> Phenomenal can only be ascribed to something that
> can only be *objectively* 
> experienced, or observed and measured through the
> physical senses.

Actually, phenomenal means represented to
consciousness in sensory terms. If you have a vision
of a mahatma, the fact that it is a vision means it is
phenomenal, since vision is a sense. If you hear his
voice that is a representation in sensory terms and
therefore phenomenal. All phenomenal representations
are mayavic, since the noumenon is not representable
in sensory terms, the senses being interpretations of
the mind of noumenal realities. There is no color,
sound, etc, except in our consciousness. These do not
exist outside ourselves. An experience of ultimate
reality would therefore be devoid of any sensory
content and therefore impossible to describe, thus we
say that it is ineffable.

As the Chinese proverb puts it:

He who knows dows not speak,
He who speaks does not know.

And with that I shall shut up.

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