Theos-Talk Archives (February 2002 Message tt00316)

Hi Jerry and all of you,

I think we are back at - the what does that word mean - thing.
So I don't really disagree...but...

I think you will agree, that the ordinary average human's consciousness canshift to a higher level.
Now, what is experience to you - is not experience to ParaBrahman.
Now, while ParaBrahman is Neti, Neti (not this, not that) - is then not obvious, that what you call 'experience' is transcended to 'something' in a sense 'higher' when merging totally with ParaBrahman.

Jerry there is only ParaBrahman - Neti, Neti (not this, not that - i.e. notexperience !) There is no duality. There is no average human thought of unity. There is only spiritually transcended 'unity'.

We have been in to this before, so let us cool it. It is words.
In the beginning was the WORD.....etc. (The New Testament)
There is nothing but the WORD.
There is only TRUTH - it pervades all experience.
Maya yes, but the TRUTH is shown there.

ParaBrahman is the ultimate transcended experience !


from
Sufilight or ?...oohh Not this, Not that.... x-filebags again...


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From: "Gerald Schueler" <gschueler@earthlink.net>
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Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 7:13 PM
Subject: Theos-World Re to Sufilight - Experience


> <<<Hi Brigitte and all of you,
> But according to me - ParaBrahman - God - i.e. Neti, Neti (not this, not that) is claimed to transcend - 'experience' !
> The ignorant think, that experience is all there is, because the ignoranthasn't 'experienced' anyhting 'else'.
> When you are ParaBrahman it will all change.
> from Sufilight with... transcending views...>>>>
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> Morten, thanks for your thoughts here. But why do you insist on maintaining an external God or deity? By setting up such an external divinity, you simultaneously bring yourself down. Positing a Parabrahman and yourself as something different automatically sets up a duality, and so defeats your goal.
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> Morten, unity with Parabrham (or Godhead, or whatever) is still just an experience. Theosophists like to think that spiritual experiences are more real, more eternal, more infinite, more absolute, than material experiences,even though Blavatsky tells us that matter and spirit are two sides of thevery same thing. Maybe you and your Parabrahman are two sides of the same thing? Ever consider that possibility?
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> No one, with absolutely no exceptions, can transcend experience per se. Your idea is so illogical that I can't even think intelligently about it. Any transcendental experience is just that - an experience. If you have really joined with Parabrahman then you would know very well that it is a wonderful and ineffable experience, but an unprovable experience nonetheless.
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