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Re: Theos-World RE: PARABRAHM -- the ABSOLUTE -- Universal ATMA ( ATMAN) etc...

Jan 11, 2002 06:49 AM
by Morten Sufilight


Hi Dallas and all of you,

Thank you for your interesting answer in the below.
Well Dallas - I really disagree with you, because of my own inner experiences. But let us see. 

The below is just my view and what I offer:

1. You wrote: "Parabrahm and KARMA are ONE."
***I agree so very very much on that. But ParaBrahman is even so also beyond Karma - or Transcending Karma. That is what I know !
ParaBrahman could with its free will transform any human to a high master -just like that - without paying respect to the Law of Karma ! That is whatI put forward. Well ParaBrahmn doesn't do that so foten these days - for reason of within the nature of ParaBrahman. Ignorance will not find the answer - but removal of it - certainly will.***
2. ***Why the Monad suddenly gets important here - I don't know.***
3. You wrote: "Reincarnation as a process of initiation and development, ofthe
ONE SPIRIT getting to KNOW ITSELF is eternal -- it goes on forever."
***No Dallas. Seen from a lower level of conciousness - this is true. But from a even higher level - this is a lie - or at least partly a lie. 
A more real truth is, that There is only ParaBrahman - as HPB states : "Omnipresent", "Unspeakable" "Unthinkable". So this "reincarnating forever" buisness - you have going Dallas - 'forget' that for a while, - don't even think - "transcend thinking"- (i.e. THINKING) then you will get enlightened and understand. ParaBrahman is imense - please don't underestimate ParaBrahman.
Those who think - reincarnates - forever. Those who transcends thinking, - they transcends time - and - they - merge with ParaBrahman. - I am talkingabout - a transcended future - where all is transcended. Do this help ?
4. You wrote: 
"The SECRET DOCTRINE has to be truly and humbly studied again and
again. There, resides the entrance to the "Path." And if The
SECRET DOCTRINE is based on the ancient stanzas of DZYAN recorded
in that universal secret sacerdotal scripture and tongue, recall
also, that the verses in the VOICE OF THE SILENCE are derived
from the same source."
***Well yes Dallas - or at least - just ONE "Path" out of many. The Voice of Silence came form a scripture in South India. So maybe, there are some clues in South India - on ancient scriptures and languages. Maybe even on Wivans/Vimanas. Anyone - any comments ?***
5. You wrote: 
"From our own limited perceptions in the "here and now" we tend to mentallyendow all "things that are named" with a form, a
substance and a limit in terms of TIME for their existence."
***I agree.***
6. Dallas wrote: "Excuse if this long and rambling -- it merely shows that there
are several ways of approaching this study and H P B has covered
them."
***All right Dallas. I suggest, that you keep it more short.***
7. Love can only be got through Love. The fruit of Mental - communication is Mental communication. The fruit of Love is Love. The fruit of dry talk isdry talk. Let us teach - the Secret teachings - of all ages.
Let us always keep our hearts open.

thank you Dallas

Feel free to do your best

from Sufilight






 
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FOUR VIDYAS -- ASPECTS OF KNOWLEDGE


There are four (out of the many other) names of the various kinds
of Esoteric Knowledge or Sciences given, even in the esoteric
Purānas. There is

(1) Yajna-Vidya, knowledge of the occult powers awakened in
Nature by the performance of certain religious ceremonies and
rites.

(2) Maha-vidya, the "great knowledge," the magic of the Kabalists
and of the Tantrika worship, often Sorcery of the worst
description.

(3) Guhya-Vidya, knowledge of the mystic powers residing in Sound
(Ether), hence in the Mantras (chanted prayers or incantations)
and depending on the rhythm and melody used; in other words a
magical performance based on Knowledge of the Forces of Nature
and their correlation; and


(4) ATMA-VIDYA, a term which is translated simply "knowledge of
the Soul," true Wisdom by the Orientalists, but which means far
more.

This last is the only kind of Occultism that any theosophist who
admires Light on the Path, and who would be wise and unselfish,
ought to strive after.


DTB CORRECT Since ATMAN is that transcendent reality that
covers all aspects and kinds of manifestations.

But bear in mind that all VIDYAS or KNOWLEDGE are/is relative to
the time, space and cycle in which it prevails. It is
essentially descriptive of the relations of BEINGS in
MANIFESTATION. ATMA Vidya is the only exception because it
covers far more. The reason for this is it includes the others


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