Theos-Talk Archives (December 2001 Message tt00458)

Hi, Paul:

Don't hold your breath on that one.

Steve

--- bri_mue <bri_mue@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Daniel: "On a number of occasions since she posted
> the above, I have 
> tried to get Muehlegger to give her views on the
> Ooton Liatto case."
> Daniel must be posting a longer time ago prepared
> mail today, because 
> last week I did comment already on the Ooton Liatto
> case.
> I also note that in spite of posting a significant
> long essay today, 
> Daniel still did not answer the questions he thanked
> for six days ago 
> but did not answer, and to wich today I already
> added a part V. 
> 
> Sorry to say Daniel but are we to believe your
> knowledge is indeed 
> that minimal in regards to TS history ?
> 
> Otherwise just finally tell us how and why/why not;
> 
> 1) Drugs might have been incorporated in the inner 
> teachings of the early TS regarding astral travel ?
> 
> From your historical knowledge Pls. explain;
> 
> A) Not be true atole? 
> 
> B) Part of it true, and if so what part ?
> 
> Pls quote evidence in case of A or/and B. Or if you
> just make it 
> up , then pls state so.
> 
> 2) Did't Blavatsky mentioned (as quoted twice
> already in my earlier 
> mails) "when a sacred beverage enabled him to leave
> his body' ? 
> 
> Did't Blavatsky mentioned the sacred "Sleep of *** "
> 
> an obvious reference to the Sleep of Sialam, a term
> used by 
> P.B.Randolph ?
> 
> From your historical knowledge Pls. explain;
> 
> A) Not be true atole? 
> 
> B) Part of it true, and if so what part ?
> 
> Pls quote evidence in case of A or/and B. Or if you
> just make it 
> up , then pls state so.
> 
> 3) A whole list of researchers claims drugs where
> used in the early 
> TS.(see my earlier 4 part mail on this subject), do
> have evidence 
> that proof this cannot be true ?
> 
> From your historical knowledge Pls. explain;
> 
> A) Not be true atole?
> 
> B) Part of it true, and if so what part ?
> 
> Pls quote evidence in case of A or/and B. Or if you
> just make it up 
> (your "reasoning"), then pls state so.
> 
> 4) What about the drugs claimed in the G.H.Felt's 
> experiments, and how do you explain these
> experriments ?
> 
> From your historical knowledge Pls. explain;
> 
> A) Not be true atole? 
> 
> B) Part of it true, and if so what part ?
> 
> From your historical knowledge Pls quote evidence in
> case of A or/and 
> B. Or if you just make it up , then pls state so.
> 
> 5) Why would Rawsons report about Blavatsky (She had
> tried hasheesh 
> in Cairo with success, and she again indulged in it
> in this city 
> under the care of myself and Dr. Edward Sutton
> Smith, who had a
> large experience with the drug among his patients at
> Mount Lebanon, Syria. She said, 'Hasheesh multiplies
> ones life a thousandfold. My experiences are real
> as if they wer ordinary events of actual life. Ah!
> I have ean xplanation. It is a recollection of my
> former
> existences, my previous incarnations. It is a
> wonderful
> drug, and it clears up a profound mystery."
> 
> From your historical knowledge Pls. explain;
> 
> A) Not be true atole? 
> 
> B) Part of it true, and if so what part ?
> 
> Pls quote evidence in case of A or/and B. Or if you
> just make it 
> up , then pls state so.
> 
> 
> .
> 6) Why would Dr.Santucci state; "Keeping in mind the
> activities of 
> Blavatsky's and her followers in the Lamasry in the
> New York days, 
> are we actually confronted with asociety that was
> more 
> a "theourgia"and less a "theosophia" ?
> 
> From your historical knowledge Pls. explain;
> 
> A) Not be true atole? 
> 
> B) Part of it true, and if so what part ?
> 
> Pls quote evidence in case of A or/and B. Or if you
> just make it up 
> (your "reasoning"), then pls state so.
> 
> 7)What exactly is your opinion about the various
> historical issues 
> coverred by Mathiesen, and others in my following
> e-mail ; 
> 
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/4242
> 
> From your historical knowledge Pls. explain;
> 
> A) Not be true atole? 
> 
> B) Part of it true, and if so what part ?
> 
> Pls quote evidence in case of A or/and B. Or if you
> just make it up 
> (your "reasoning"), then pls state so.
> 
> Are you not going to send us a list of all the
> sources mentioned in 
> Deveney's small booklet on Astral Projection and the
> TS soon ? you 
> should have seen the World article there, it is
> listed by Deveney 
> there.
> 
> If Blavasky stated it herself that she took drugs,
> then why you keep 
> claiming she didn't, or do you now agree she did ?
> 
> You ask me to give the sources of the authors I
> quoted in the above, 
> but what is the reason for anybody to even continue
> the conversation 
> with you if your mails so far show a lack of
> knowledge of your own in 
> the subjects you want others to work and provide you
> with 
> information of.
> I did already answerred your first request by
> sending the four part e-
> mail quoted above, I certainly am glad to cooperate
> with you further 
> on that if you at least answer the above questions.
> 
> Thank you,
> Brigitte
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 


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