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Nov 24, 2001 05:33 AM

by dalval14

Saturday, November 24, 2001 Dear Jerry: If I say "Man" -- I need to define that further. I could be speaking of the body, the mind, the conscience, his desires, or his wisdom, Spirit etc.... The word MAN like MONAD is divisible. I use Monad as a collective. I also use it to indicate the basic and original source of CONSCIOUSNESS which resides in each human. I am never quite sure what you mean when you use Monad. Unit, yes, Certainly. But UNIT OF WHAT ? The Highest is linked to the lowest, figuratively. If we go "out of manifestation" then MONAD could imply the whole ABSOLUTE with no possible definitions that we might apply to IT. But I fear we two are still swimming in a sea of indefinite definitions. Dal ================================= -----Original Message----- From: G S Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 11:46 AM To: Subject: Re to Dallas <<<<Dear Jerry: I think the problem is that a MONAD on one plane is a departure point for diversity on another.>>> Dear Dallas, I think that the real problem is that a monad is an indivisible unit, and when you divide it into parts, you are no longer talking about a monad at all. If you really stop to think about exactly what an indivisible unit is, then you will conclude that there is no such a thing anywhere in manifestation. All manifested things are components. So, monads, by definition, are outside of our 7 plane system of space and time. It is their rays or expressions that are within manifestation, and these rays are NOT monads. <<<when I use the word MONAD I assume pretty much the following: We are either dealing with the PRIMORDIAL MONAD or with the Manifested MONAD.>>> I think that many of us old timers can agree on what you are saying here. However, the concept of a manifested monad is illogical and also impossible. And I fear it is misleading and confusing to new students. Why? Because a manifested monad is not monadic. Now, I fully realize this language problem, and have called this manifested monad the I-Not-I Monad, even though it is a triad and not a monad at all. But by saying I-Not-I everyone can see that is it no longer a true monad. I am not arguing about your ideas, but rather your choice of words in one of your past posts that leads us to reify ideas/concepts. CUT

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