Theos-Talk Archives (November 2001 Message tt00384)

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Nos



-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Reitemeyer [mailto:ringding@blinx.de] 
Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2001 1:52 PM
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Theos-World For australians


NOS:
http://web.access.net.au/nutech
So the americans have been using MK-Ultra on us as well. What I want to
know is do you need to have a chip implanted first ( a la Timothy
McVeigh) to be remotely controlled or can they just take you over from a
distance.

Frank:
High tech weapons are going back to the CIA and its "Operation
Paperclip" from 1948 on. The CIA was founded by the leading Gestapo
people who were taken over from the old OSS. Also this operation and its
later derivates were continuations of former Nazi programs. Proofs of it
you'll find in the Heinrich Müller files in the US National Archives.
Author Gregory Douglas published some books on it. (BTW, it helped
Müller much to tell his new employer that he and Hitler were good
Catholics. In the 811 microfilms of the Gestapo in the US National
Archives there is no mention of Theosophy or HPB, only a few harsh
remarks on astrologists described as idiots, which clearly shows (among
others) that National Socialism was a purely materialistic enterprise).

This simple facts alone show the wrong thinking of some theosophists who
try to understand world politics and politicians with the idealistic
axiom which is necessary in the theosophical study. But people like
Hitler were real politicians and not followers of any ideological
system. When Müller worked in and for USA under Truman he often met a
close friend of him in a NY gentleman's club (lodge?), who was a leading
NKVD (later turned into KGB) man. They decided how the Korean war is
running and stopped some nervous American Generals who demanded to nuke
China. (Would be interesting to know what would had happened with
Hiroshima when the top Nazis were in Washington already in 1945. That
Hitler possessed a working atomic bomb, which can be seen from Stasi
files - the former East German intelligence - is another story. And that
seems to be the real reason why Eisenhower marching-in to Germany was
stopped by his superiors for several months. Later on he surprisingly
"found" a working atomic bomb, which obviously was "sold" to the US).

BTW, its curious to find mystical theosophical explanations on the UFO
phenomen when the said files clearly show that they were physical German
ships and that the US industry failed to rebuild working UFOs, showing
that the German technology on submarines, Ufos, lasers, video and tape
machines, computers, rockets, etc. according to an American general was
some decades ahead (which gives the real reason for the wars, which are
never human rights, ideology and so on but always money). This Gestapo
documents (taken out according to the FOIA, but many paras still
blacked) seem to support the strange guy George Adamski who in the early
1950's said that the UFO inhabitants with whom he will have talked,
spoke German.

Nos:
Port Arthur gunman Bryant was remotely controlled to conduct the Port
Arthur Massacre - so that the government could introduce new gun laws.
This is the typical American MO - create a problem so that the new law
can be rushed in to address it.

Frank:
Right. You can find this pattern in the anglo-saxony (and others)
politics throughout the centuries. The pattern is always as thus:

1. Create a problem (or turn an existing little problem into a big one)
and sell this side weapons. 2. Sell weapons also to the other side. 3.
When the problem breaks out play the peace keeper and destroy as MUCH as
possible. 4. In the aftermath generously rebuild the destroyed cities
for maximal profit. 5. You'll earn money BEFORE, DURING and AFTER the
problem.

Pearl Harbor is another good example, Roosevelt's trap to give the
belied American people a rationale for going to war when the US ships
blocked the Japanese isle, forcing them to destroy the American ships.

Another good example is the Versailles treaty (were the Zionists -
claiming to represent all Judea - for the first time appeared publicly
as a nation as was foreseen by Rudolf Steiner in 1897 on his comments of
the Basel
protocols) and the Balfour declaration.
Another good example is the FM founding of the artificial states of
Czecho-Slovakia, Poland and Yugoslavia between the WW's to get sure to
have an ever burning wound.

Hitler was paid by the Warburg bank in New York from 1925 onwards. His
role was to round up the assimilated Jews in Europe as was predicted in
the Zionist program of 1897. As Hitler has had very good connections to
the Zionists (not necessary the Jews!), his protector and Vice
Chancellor von Papen was the one with the good connection to Rome (the
Jesuits being the ones who helped Hitler to get out from the Landsberg
imprisonment). The SJ is an enterprise from black magic Jews (as HPB
says elsewhere). The Talmudists as the occult dugpa elite claims to get
complete control over "their" exoteric Christian Rome as the Jesuits
control many FM and Socialistic structures.

During WW II the leading US military firms continued to sell weapons to
Nazi Germany (the Nazis were installed by Wall Street as before the
Bolshevists in Russia, which was predicted by HPB) up to 1945 as can be
seen from the Müller archives in USA. After 1945 West Germany received
large credits from US banks which guaranteed good profits a third time.
BTW, like the CIA under Truman was launched by leading Nazi people also
the intelligence of the new West Germany colony was a child from the
CIA, the Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND) in Pullach near Munich under
Gehlen, former head of Fremde Heere Ost (one must understand that Müller
as the head of the Gestapo was a top level insider which was Gehlen not
and that explains some strange things in post-war history).

East Europe went under control of the SU (Red Star), which is a child of
the US (White Star), so actually the Wall Street controlled during the
faked Cold War both sides. Without cold war no nation would have been
willing to spent billions and billions for the high profit military
machine. When JFK tried to end this spook he was assassinated by a CIA
structure under Angleton.

The same pattern now with Afghanistan and its big oil and gas reserve.
Bin Laden was in conference of US intelligence in Dubai up to August,
were he underwent a medical operation in a CIA hospital. First Wall
Street sold weapons to the Taliban, now they destroy as much as
possible, later on they earn again with rebuilding. Some call it
"International City Wreck Service".

Nos:
How pissed off must the US freemasons be that Jachim and Boaz (the WTC
towers - designed by Japanese Freemason) - were taken down by
Mossad!!!!!!!!!!!

Frank:
The pattern Theodor Herzl described in his diaries (which in print
appeared only in excerpts). Steiner was of the opinion that the Zionist
Jews are not only the enemies of Germany (the Teutons being the oldest
Aryan stock in Theosophy and the Jews being the latest) but of the Jews
also. Karl Marx limited his harsh critic on the Jews on the money
question but it seems he was also aware of the Rothschild program as
pointed out in the above pattern (a check from Rothschild to Marx is to
be found in the British Museum). The Rothschild program seems to be the
pattern for Joly. The Basel congress of the Zionists and the resolved
program seems to be based on this Rothschild program. The US FM were
degenerated even in 1873-5 when HPB tried to reform it.

That British FM were under SJ control in the 1880's can be seen that HPB
was fighting in London and from the FM Europe map Steiner published were
the war aims of WW I were "foreseen". This agrees with the SJ program of
1888 to destroy Germany as the old Lutheran anti-Catholic country. In
1896 when the British (Fleet Street) government started its anti-German
war propaganda ("Germany must perish", "Germania este deletam") in the
Jewish controlled London press (TIMES = SEMIT, read backward),
theosophical leader Katherine Tingley warned against war preparation.

The pope several times said that Germany (standing for spiritual
freedom, against mind slavery) will be destroyed soon. The SJ controlled
Grand Orient several times demanded Kaiser Wilhelm II. to join their
lodge, which he denied (the old Prussian Masonic lodges of which General
von Steuben was also a member were anti-SJ). That's was a main reason
for the White Lodge that the then leader of Germany Prince Bismarck was
supported with information, who prohibited the Social Democrats and the
SJ. Jesuit magazine from that time show that the Catholic University of
Vienna was instrumental to support their policy and proclaim anti-Jewish
(better: pro-Zionist, against assimilation, regarding the Jews as a
special race). Germany (especially Prussia) was in the last part of the
19th. Century the most liberal and Jew friendly country in Europe and
that gives another rationale why this country was the main target of the
background powers. Actual history is never black & white as ideologists
may believe.

British ex prime minister John Major spoke once in Bonn about the WW's
1914-45 as the "second 30 year's war" against Germany. This was released
so by the German press department but was later censored and re-written
(on order of whom? Big Brother?), but the British embassy in Germany
confirmed that the text was accurate.

BTW, there are examples that also in the US old newspaper articles from
the 1940's are re-written and "improved" as described by George Orwell,
a pupil of the H.G. Wells structure, which dreams of a single world
government (which both HPB & KT were fighting against, teaching the
individuality of humans and
nations) to
suppress all independent nations. Leading German social democrats
predict this world government within the next 10-15 years.










 

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