Theos-Talk Archives (October 2001 Message tt00336)

Perhaps it might be considered higher to be true to thine ownSelf. Perhaps
it might be considered even higher to love thy neighbor as thySelf without
reference to gradation (higher) or de-gradation (lower).

Bill

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> From: DANIEL J HOUGAS <younggung36@msn.com>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: Theos-World wake up to it and enjoy (including
"spiritual")life
> Date: Sunday, October 21, 2001 2:12 PM
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> Bridgett, the highest thing you can ever do is to know thyself, don't
you agree. 
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> From: bri_mue@yahoo.com
> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 12:09 PM
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Theos-World wake up to it and enjoy (including "spiritual")life
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> Jerry: "Another way to put it might be that a mystical experience is
> in the form of new and deeper states of consciousness, even though the
> senses and outward experience of things may still be physical plane
> earth. A psychical experience is in the form of altered or different
> sense experiences, perhaps of subtler aspects of physical or astral
> earth. With the psychical, we see different things and may go to other
> places, but our basic consciousness is the same. It's the same "us"
> that is going there and seeing those things. With the mystical, we may
> still be here and seeing the same things, but we're greater within,
> with a wider scope of understanding, with perhaps entirely new ways of
> appreciating life in our wider consciousness."
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> Maybe we don't "go" anywhere.
> 
> Jerry: "can know the taste of an apple by reading about it. And also,
> they admit to being afraid to eat it"
> 
> It reminds me a bit of primitive tribes that live in the midst of a
> beautiful forest/nature, but are afraid to walk in it at night
> because of the "gosts" out there. They demonize the world, not
> realizing that if there are "gosts",or spiritual beings, out there
> they couldn't harm one if you are present minded.
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> Jerry: "We experience materiality directly, and we experience dreams
> directly, and so how does one know that direct spiritual experience is
> any more reliable?
> "
> One is good for this, and the other is good for other aspects of life,
> and yes they are both limited on a "real" life basis it seems. But at
> least are to be considered as "normal" in our current condition.
> Nevertheless the physical (or the lower Manas seems a more accurate
> thesophical term) seems more familiar to many theosophists then
> spiritual "experiences"(and of course there is also discussion of what
> is "spiritual"), wich some demonize, and that is a dead end street.
> Just as you breath air, drink water (any long term breatharians on the
> list ?), and eat at least some, food, applying "experience"
> exploring consciousness and self .helps one to be a more balanced
> person it seems, plus adding a good dose of scepticism and trying to
> check things out helps a lot .
> In other words to stay with your two feet on the ground seems an
> advisable way to go as long one has a body.
> 
> Only reading books, of watever creed is indeed a limitation, and can
> get you confused or stuck. Creed can also mean scientific creed of
> course, but also in science, there is a lot of good research going on
> that can be looked up and can be made to be useful.
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> We live in a great world/universe, why not wake up to it and enjoy
> it.
> Brigitte
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