Theos-Talk Archives (October 2001 Message tt00100)

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From: Margaret James <Margaret@HIPJOBS.NET>
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Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 4:20 PM
Subject: quote: Knowledge and Suffering


> At a meeting on September 19th, one of the Western
> women questioned, "Why do we suffer?" Baba dictated
> this reply:
> 
> Why should we be born? To take birth means to suffer.
> When suffering leads to real eternal happiness we should
> not attach importance to this suffering. It is to eliminate
> suffering that suffering has to be. Most of this suffering
> is unnecessary and self inflicted. Ninety-nine percent
> of the world's suffering is self inflicted. Yet they ask,
> "Why must we suffer?" Great suffering means great
> liberation.
> 
> What is ignorance if not suffering? War is no special
> suffering. Don't people suffer all the time? It is
> universal suffering that leads to war. People suffer because
> they are not satisfied; they want more and more.
> Ignorance gives rise to greed and vanity. If you were to
> want nothing, would you suffer? But you do want. If
> you did not want anything you would not suffer even
> in the jaws of a lion! Even without war everyone suffers
> physically.
> 
> Mental suffering is worse than physical suffering. What
> the people of the world with limited vision think of
> suffering is only physical. They draw pictures of a bomb-
> stricken person, nose off, arm off, leg off, et cetera.
> Sometimes physical suffering tends to ease mental suffering.
> The world's idea of suffering and of happiness is entirely
> limited.
> 
> Happiness -- you have no idea of that real happiness --
> is worth all the physical and mental suffering of the
> universe! Then all suffering becomes as if it were not; it
> was due to ignorance. Ignorance makes you flinch at the
> sight of a cockroach; real happiness does not make you
> feel the teeth of a tiger in your body!
> 
> from LORD MEHER
> Volumes 6&7
> Page 2317
> Bhau Kalchuri
>