Theos-Talk Archives (October 2001 Message tt00043)

Hello nos
It depends rather on what we understand by theosophical. Taking
theosophical to mean Wisdom (lit. from theosophia: "Divine Wisdom"), yes I
do think we can say something is a theosophical belief. Do we believe in
Karma and reincarnation, or do we know it? What is the basis of that
belief or knowledge?

It may therefore seem to be a contradiction to write:

<<<Isn't it belief that is the evil? Piloting a plane into
peoples beliefs (the real materialism) will not bring those
beliefs down, or render them
harmless. Wisdom (rather than belief) is something we can all
aspire to.
And that aspiration can help in crushing out beliefs
(ignorance). The curse of humanity.>>>

But is it a contadiction? Aren't both views true? Why would you see that
this latter statement is not true? Don't you think that ultimately those
beliefs do have to be crushed out? Perhaps it should be "religious (or
political) belief" rather than belief? Theosophical "belief" becomes
knowledge (wisdom), rather than a belief.
Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: nos [mailto:nos@granite.net.au]
Sent: 2 October 2001 4:46 pm
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Blame...


What if my beliefs are theosophical?

Nos



-----Original Message-----
From: Tony [mailto:alpha@dircon.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2001 8:33 PM
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NOT to Blame...


nos:
<<<We
studied Iraq from his POV at University and it has perhaps
moulded my own beliefs the most.>>>

Isn't it belief that is the evil? Piloting a plane into
peoples beliefs (the real materialism) will not bring those
beliefs down, or render them
harmless. Wisdom (rather than belief) is something we can all
aspire to.
And that aspiration can help in crushing out beliefs
(ignorance). The curse of humanity.

Tony


-----Original Message-----
From: nos [mailto:nos@granite.net.au]
Sent: 2 October 2001 3:24 am
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Theos-World Why US 'Imperialialism', 'Racism' is
NOT to Blame...


HI Michele,

Thanks for the Link - I'm working through it now - I'll get
back to you with my thoughts. Have you read any Malcolm Booker?
He is perhaps my main source of political commentary on middle
eastern situations. We studied Iraq from his POV at University
and it has perhaps moulded my own beliefs the most.

Regards

Nos

(not ONLY sarcastic!) ;)



-----Original Message-----
From: Michele Lidofsky [mailto:officerjenny@mindspring.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2001 3:15 AM
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Theos-World Why US 'Imperialialism', 'Racism' is NOT
to Blame...


Jonah Goldberg writes:

"Bernard Lewis, perhaps the greatest living English-language historian
of the Middle East, wrote a brilliant essay eleven years ago in
the Atlantic entitled "The Roots of Muslim Rage." It is the
best short piece I've found on this subject to date, and I
think anyone interested in this topic should read it.

Lewis (also) shows that while Israel is obviously unpopular in
the Arab world, it may not be for the reasons so many knee-jerk
Israel foes believe....."

An important set of articles giving a valuable brief synopsis
of East/West history and cultural conflict. Well worth reading.

http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/90sep/rage.htm

Michele



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