Theos-Talk Archives (September 2001 Message tt00290)

This sounds all too xian for my liking. But You enjoy it nonetheless.

Nos



-----Original Message-----
From: Etzion Becker [mailto:etvionbb@netvision.net.il] 
Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2001 2:38 PM
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Secret Doctrine - Destroyed And 
Then Created Again?


I have to elucidate on 'The Lord of Love'? How can I do this? 
You feel Him in your heart. There is no chemical who can help a 
person having a direct experience of Love. Using drugs and 
chemicals for medical reasons under the guidance of an expert, 
are something all together different then those sharlatans who 
sell 'spiritual experiences' for the naive folks who are 
looking for short cuts. The great Masters, who serve the Lord 
of Love (funny you added the ' ' , quite interesting, as well 
as revealing), never prescribe cheap, quick shortcuts. Their 
way is hard work, sacrifice and love. May all of us have the 
good fortune of coming under the guidance of a Real Master. 
Best wishes. Etzion
----- Original Message -----
From: nos <nos@granite.net.au>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 3:30 AM
Subject: RE: Theos-World Re: Secret Doctrine - Destroyed And 
Then Created Again?


> 'Lord of Love' ? - Please elucidate.
>
> Look I don't really understand all this exoteric stuff you're talking 
> about.
>
> All I know is you can't travel through dimensional portals unless you 
> stop time to create a congruent nexus. If you've got years to learn 
> how to meditate to that point (haha I kill
> me) then fine. Otherwise go join the dervishes and spin on the spot. 
> Or you can use a strobe light and cylinder of CO2 (popular in the 
> 50's).
>
> There's also a vast difference between hallucinogens, entheogens, 
> medicinal herbs, psychadaelics and nootropics. A shaman knows the 
> effects of each on the body and spirit and how to use them to heal 
> others. Mushrooms, vines, seeds, roots, bark - natures pharmacopeia. 
> Aspirin comes from willow bark - a wicth 300 years ago would have 
> prescribed willow bark for headaches - she would have been burnt at 
> the stake for doing so. Your neolithic attitude is one step removed 
> from this.
>
> Now educate yourself here:
>
> http://www.erowid.org/index.shtml
>
> As to your question - I prescribe the best medicine to suit the 
> ailment.
>
> Namaste
>
> Sri Nos
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Etzion Becker [mailto:etvionbb@netvision.net.il]
> Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2001 3:26 AM
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Secret Doctrine - Destroyed And Then 
> Created Again?
>
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> I know precious little about *shamanism*. I respect people's beliefs. 
> If people use hallucinogens to *get* spiritual experiences, then, for 
> me, these experiences are worth the price of these substances. Love 
> has nothing to do with this. If we truly spiritually minded, then we 
> are after love, service and sacrifice. I don't see where these 
> substances have any value for those who follow the path of 
our Lord of 
> Love. So you do prescribe drugs for *spiritual advancement*? Etzion
>
>
> > So you're discrediting Shamanism?
> >
> > Nos
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Etzion Becker [mailto:etvionbb@netvision.net.il]
> > Sent: Monday, 24 September 2001 4:08 PM
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Secret Doctrine - Destroyed And Then 
> > Created Again?
> >
> >
> > What are you trying to say, drugs has anything to do with spiritual 
> > advancement?! If spiritual advancement would have been dependent on 
> > chemicals, it wasn't worthy the efforts. Etzion
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