Theos-Talk Archives (September 2001 Message tt00057)

Hello Dallas,

Thanks for the reply. If I am reading your abundant response correctly, it 
looks as if you agree with my own reply to the poster, DNisk98114, who 
originally made this suggestion. The beauty of a written correspondence that 
has no preconceived imagery associated with it, is, that it requires a 
genuine two way metaphysical experience. Writer and reader can be intimately 
joined in an ongoing intuitive relationship. The relationship that both, you 
and I have had with HPB over the last forty years or so, is a case on point. 
It is her own intuitive words that calls forth my own intuitive thoughts. 
Knowing her in the flesh would not have added to that one iota. Indeed, it 
may have even distracted me.

Best 

Louis


In a message dated 9/9/2001 6:28:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
dalval14@earthlink.net writes:

> Sunday, September 09, 2001
> 
> Re: Personal bios
> 
> 
> Dear Louis:
> 
> From the beginning H P B emphasized that any veracity concerning
> Theosophical teaching was inherent to the propositions and
> descriptive phrases used, and Theosophy was not to be made more
> credible by its presentation made by any person.
> 
> As persons can err, it was thought advisable to place ones
> reliance on COMMON SENSE and propositions that were both
> impersonal and universal. And also to verify them with
> information that was already available generally.
> 
> Hence any emphasis on personality was discouraged, as it said
> nothing as to the value of what was offered.
> 
> In any case biographies (unless heavily documented) are the
> product of someone's opinions concerning another party -- and
> those opinions, as in the case of a translation into another
> language -- could be prejudiced or even wrong. How a persona may
> have lived and what he or she may have done is no index to their
> real character and capacities. But what they write, say and do
> are indexes as to sincerity, honesty, and creditability. We
> cannot judge Theosophy by the personal who may present it.
> 
> Theosophy is said to be a presentation of Universal Truth. The
> promulgator or the propagandist may have many personal faults.
> None of those makes the philosophy either better or worse. It
> value is innate and inherent to is. It becomes the
> responsibility of the student, or the pupil, or the devotee, to
> direct his study to PROVING the accuracy of what any Theosophical
> proposition is.
> 
> The reason an interlocking and cooperative set of rules and laws
> that exist in nature and link all beings together is exposed, is
> that at this point in our racial development, we needed to have a
> more consecutive and correlative view of our situation and of the
> laws of Nature that support our lives.
> 
> Theosophy has succeeded in showing the shortcomings of
> materialism, the dogmatism and limitations of orthodox
> religiosity, and the problems that affect an understanding of
> intelligence, consciousness, and the reason for man's existence.
> 
> Karma and Reincarnation have been shown importance and the
> eternal nature of the Human Spirit/Soul has been described.
> 
> The purpose of evolution has been broadly described as "Sublime
> Perfection. And its attainment has bee placed in front of every
> thinking individual as a potential they may work for.
> 
> Again and again "authorities" and reliance on them has been
> discouraged.
> 
> You may ask what about H P B, W Q Judge, Annie Besant, Olcott,
> Krishnamurthi, se Puruker, de Zircov, Leadbeater, etc... are
> their writing to be relied on? Read those writings and compare
> carefully with the teachings that H P B has given us on behalf of
> the GREAT AND ANCIENT LODGE
> 
> H P B is a special case as she came as a "messenger" from the
> Great and Ancient lodge of Adepts [ see ISIS UNVEILED Vol. 2, pp
> 98-103; SECRET DOCTRINE Vol. I pp 207-210 ] Thar there exists
> an association, a band of un-dying Adepts, Mahatmas, Buddhas,
> Rishis, is spoken of in many places by chiefly in SECRET DOCTRINE
> II pp. 275fn, 281-2
> 
> Neither the Adepts nor H P B ever claimed "authority." The
> provided us with historical information that bridges many of the
> gaps of pre-history and shows the links between various Religions
> at their ROOTS.
> 
> ISIS UNVEILED provides us with a good deal of information on
> this, and so does The SECRET DOCTRINE .
> 
> The SECRET DOCTRINE additionally provides us with an extensive
> view of the observations made by the un-dying Adepts of the
> Evolution of the Worlds, suns and Universe as well as of Mankind
> on this our planet.
> 
> The propositions concerning Science and Philosophy can be
> relatively easily verified if one has a broad and well developed
> knowledge in those areas.
> 
> Essentially Theosophy is provable. It is up to us if we are
> interested and assiduous students to do this proving.
> 
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Dallas
> 
> ==================================
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: T -- 9
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 3:16 AM
> To:
> Subject: [bn-study] To the moderators....
> 
> For me, the value of this list the way that it currently exists,
> is the LACK
> of biographical personality information. Without that being
> supplied, the
> poster IS his or her message. I have come to "know" certain
> people on this
> list, strictly by their postings. There are no other ego or
> personality
> issues to distract me. Everyone on this list gets to be their
> best or worst
> self, through what they say, NOT, because of what is said about
> them. I
> believe a bio page is available on the home page for those who
> need it.
> 
> Louis
> 
> 
> > A suggestion , maybe?
> > Would it be possible to schedule a day where you would post
> relatively
> short bios of the moderators?
> >
> > And schedule another day for short bios of posters?
> >
> > A sort of getting to know session .
> 
> > Would it have merit or should something be done like this "on
> the fly" ,
> 
> 
> 
>