Theos-Talk Archives (September 2001 Message tt00053)

Sunday, September 09, 2001

Dear Bart:

Re Koran

I had noted this was said of the Koran. However in history at
least twice, if not three times, it has been revised and
rewritten or rearranged by scholars. So the texts currently
reproduced my can not be the original and actual words of the
Prophet.

Interesting: I agree that all translations will convey a
certain color or flavor of the mind that is doing the
translating. Then that makes for modifications. Look for
instance at the current efforts of Biblical scholars to discover
the earliest written versions of the BIBLE -- and the long time
it has taken for the DEAD SEA SCROLLS to be finally translated
and those translations to be made available, even as picture
reproductions.


Re Astral matter -- its constitution

Astral Matter and electro-magnetic field of forces. It is an
analogy. In reading the current discoveries in astro-physics one
wonders if this analogy is not being seen there in regard to the
arrangements of harmony and balance between Suns and planets,
comets, meteorites, "dust" etc...

To many the answer it is GRAVITY that does this rather then
electro-magnetism on a colossal scale -- because we have a
convention in place that identifies elctro-magnetism to the
phenomena of attraction and repulsion relating to a few elements:
Iron, Cobalt, Nickel, Manganese (these 4 I believe).

Other elements hardly react to intense electro-magnetic fields.
Yet when one considers the physical of elementary and sub-atomic
particles, the various separations and differences are achieved
by using electro-magnetism and highly charged beams of various
kinds that, accelerated, are made to impinge on a variety of
selected "targets" the concept of a network of such forces below
and within the physical base is not impossible but highly
probable and it is one of the hypotheses that is still current in
scientific circles.

But to continue this line of Theosophical inquiry, we ought to
further ask: what set limits and parameters to the Astral forms
that underlie the physical ? Are they pertaining to the "Pranic"
and then, below that, to the "Kamic" planes ? Where are the real
limits set ? Who, and how are they set ?

In PSYCHIC AND NOETIC ACTION (Article by H P B in LUCIFER, Oct
& Nov 1890; H P B Articles, U L T Edn., Vol. 2, p. 7;
BLAVATSKY: Collected Works (TPH) Vol. 12, p.350) makes the
distinction between atoms and molecules, placing the atoms on the
astral plane of force whereas the molecules are placed on the
physical plane of MATERIAL FORMS. (see pp 19, 21-2, 24-5,

I hope this may be of help

Dal

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-----Original Message-----
From: Bart L---------
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 8:16 PM
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Subject: Re: [bn-study] Seven Fold Constitution and ASTRAL MATTER

dalval14@earthlink.net wrote:
> I did not know the Arabic script had also been "dotted." I have
> always had so far to rely on translations of the Koran, and
since
> I did not know the original, I looked at several, so as to
> compare the versions.

Interesting semi irrelevant side note: According to
Islamic doctrine,
the Koran cannot be translated, only interpreted.

> The idea of an electro-magnetic base (astral matter) of forces
> powers and energies on which the physical molecules and
> structures are arranged.

Can you please explain to me the relationship between an
electro-magnetic base and astral matter?

Bart

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