Theos-Talk Archives (March 2001 Message tt00106)

Friday, March 16, 2001

Dear Mauri

If and when one reaches the elevated spiritual stage when all his
desires and passions are MASTERED and under his absolute CONTROL,
then the question arises: What next for such a being?

If you turn to the end of THE VOICE OF THE SILENCE this Mind is
asked a question:

1. Do you want to retire into Nirvana and enjoy the prize of
success?

Or,

2. Do you want to continue working actively wit Nature and
Mankind in an endeavor to assist and help others to succeed and
rise to the level that is now yours?

It is the final choice between a sublime spiritual selfishness
and an unselfish pledge to remain in "the world" and assist in
whatever way is needed.

Dal

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-----Original Message-----
From: Mauri
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:35 AM
To: Subject: apparent contradictions?


SEE LAST PARA M'S LETTER

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subject: apparent contradictions?

RE:

[bn-sd] RE: matter is eternal and FORMS DEVELOP from
CHAOTIC
SUBSTANCE under guidance.

Wed, 14 Mar 2001 17:29:46 -0800



wrote partly:

It seems all a matter of perspective and
comparison, not that I'm suggesting that there's
anything particularly wrong or particularly
irrelevant, necessarily, in such Nirvanic
attainments, and I certainly don't know. I'm
just wondering about the possibilities.


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By my apparently (?) contradictory earlier
references to "fools paradise" in the same post
(as per: ". . . not that I'm suggesting that there's
anything particularly wrong or particularly
irrelevant, necessarily, in such Nirvanic
attainments . . .") at the time of writing I had in
mind that, (possibly?), Nirvanic attainments
might reflect PERCEIVED and Karmic current
realities of Universal Relevance to the extent (?)
that any (and all?) Nirvanic attainments might
reflect aspects of perceived Reality ALONG
WITH (in a certain apparently contradictory
sense from a still-Higher, if then-currently
unperceived, or hidden, Universal perspective?)
aspects of even "Higher Relevance" that (as long
as they are not within some then-current
"real-enough" range of detection and, thereby,
out of range of one's choice-making
opportunity) can ultimately lead toward . . .
forms of re-experience, as per, to quote from
Dallas's post:



"Mr. Judge wrote a passage on this in the
EPITOME OF THEOSOPHY, p. 28. In one of
the FORUM Answers he says: "...if the Adept
voluntarily takes the delights, pleasures and
powers referred to, he is compelled after
millions of years of enjoyment, to re-enter
objective nature at the elemental stage...The
whole matter is a reference to a very obscure
doctrine, but little known..." [ Judge, Forum
Answers, p. 120 -- ULT ]"



At any rate, if some choose not to enter
Nirvanic states, (as per the literature), one might
wonder (?) about their motivation and
background as compared to those who do enter
it---not that I haven't read about the altruistic
motives of the abstainees. And how many
might enter and how many might delay, in
over-all terms? So are the non-abstainees, in
some sense, blind bats compared to the
abstainees? I wonder what is really going on.

Mauri

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