Theos-Talk Archives (February 2001 Message tt00150)

Based on Peter saying this to Sanctius:

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Your comment on "we expanded from the middle" is very close to the first symbol
of the PROEM of the Secret Doctrine, as I imagine you already know, ie the
immaculate white disk within a dull black ground... which then appears as the
disk with the central point, this point being the germ that will expand,
becoming the manifested Kosmos.
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It seems that this "middle" idea, as the starting point, more or less says the
same thing that I have read about in the Teachings (I can't say where), and
have heard and read other students speak of. This idea is, to paraphrase, that
"in an infinite universe the center is always nowhere and everywhere".

John DeSantis
(Compiler)
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Peter Merriott wrote:

> Sanctius,
>
> That would indeed be a good way of putting it. Thanks. I tried to answer
> Ananda in the context of what he was studying, ie Patanajali. However your
> statment is much closer to the Theosophical perspective.
>
> But of course, such definitions as you and I have given, do not include the
> ever unmanifested Absolute, which HPB refers to as "meta-spirit" in Key to
> Theosophy:
>
> "... though our teachings insist upon the identity of spirit and matter, and
> though we say that spirit is potential matter, and matter simply
> crystallized spirit (e.g., as ice is solidified steam), yet... the original
> and eternal condition of all is not spirit but meta-spirit, so to speak,
> (visible and solid matter being simply its periodical manifestation,)"
>
> I notice that HPB and Sankaracharya both state that ATMAN in "not-spirit",
> thus linking it to meta-spirit.
>
> Kapila, does not seem to comment upon this meta-spirit, in his Sankhya
> philisophy, while Patanjali, appears to refer only to the manifested ONE,
> Eshwara.
>
> Yes, I like what you say... "the universe was created by us, and not for
> us". That seems to bring more of a sense of responsibility, doesn't it.
> Thanks again.
>
> Your comment on "we expanded from the middle" is very close to the first
> symbol of the PROEM of the Secret Doctrine, as I imagine you already know,
> ie the immaculate white disk within a dull black ground... which then
> appears as the disk with the central point, this point being the germ that
> will expand, becoming the manifested Kosmos.
>
> ...Peter
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sanctius@mail.com [mailto:sanctius@mail.com]
> > Sent: 22 February 2001 23:17
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Theos-World Purusha and prakriti
> >
> >
> > Peter Merriott:
> > >You ask about Purusha and Prakriti. Generally speaking,
> > >one takes it to mean Spirit (purusha) and Matter (prakriti).
> >
> > One thought on that subject might be of some enlightment: Spirit is
> > matter in it's highest point of evolution, and matter is spirit in
> > it's lowest point of evolution. So, to become the highest, one must
> > also become the lowest. That is the reason I think the physical
> > universe was created by us and for us. One wants to get higher:
> > Excelsior! We didn't descend here from the top, or from the heavens.
> > We expanded from the middle. Forever, and after, and that is good.
> >
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