Theos-Talk Archives (January 2001 Message tt00153)

Dear Mauri:

Some comments below.

Dal

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-----Original Message-----
From: Mauri [mailto:mhart@idirect.ca]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 3:13 PM
To: basic@blavatsky.net
Subject: [bn-basic] role of "Unity"?




Dallas wrote:

In reality the SELF-CONSCIOUSNESS is a "ray,"
or a REFLECTION of the ONE ABSOLUTE
CONSCIOUSNESS. These are not "permutations"
as I see it, but rather the memories of the ONE
CONSCIOUSNESS that we are, and which has
been moving through those same vast periods of
time as the unchangeable and immortal UNITY.
This gives us our sense of "I". We are that
UNITY. And since we have the same qualities that
others have (WHICH WE ALL SHARE) we are
able to communicate. Although I will agree with
you that words sometimes make our thoughts
obscure.
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I wonder if that "UNITY" has pluralistic memories,
Dallas, or is there a memory of a Unifying principle,
or a "concept" of some kind, rather than (plural)
memories of Unity-derived content?

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DTB	ONE CONSCIOUSNESS implies ONE SET OF MEMORIES concerning its
EXPERIENCES in various environments, planes, levels, etc...
Without that unity there could be no continuity.
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Or did you mean "unity" as a concept: possibly in
the sense that such a Unity is beyond our notions
aside from its apparent (?) role as an
interconnecting principle of some kind?
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DTB	Our notions are usually guesses. What is their basis? How
does that basis fit into the concept of WHOLENESS and
RESPONSIVENESS ? Take the "I" as a basis -- and all concepts and
events around or within us (as sense perceptions and mental
images) either radiates from our "I:" (towards an anticipated
future), or is directed to "
The fact is that we are speaking of aspects or qualities of
perception and action by the UNIT -- CONSCIOUSNESS is one of
those. MEMORY is a part of Consciousness. If we center our
thoughts on the records, memories and actions past or present in
anyone plane we are able to contact and exercise control over IT"
for attention, analysis and response or simply memory storage.
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As I tend to interpret your explanation, I'm
wondering if that "UNITY" aspect consists of,
(among other things, possibly, such as Atma-Buddhi
and the acquired Manas), a memory, in some sense,
of the ONE ABSOLUTE CONSCIOUSNESS, and
that as consciousness evolves, Manas eventually
begins to, in some sense, tap into that memory,
leading to an increased interest in Evolutionary
subjects, (Wisdom Religion, Gupta Vidya,
Theosophy,) on various levels of perception.

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DTB	Look at what H.P.B. says concerning MANAS in the KEY TO
THEOSOPHY which you read (and forgot aspects of it, it has to be
studied, and learned so one knows -- with the Index -- where to
find answers) MANAS is 3 - fold The LOWER MANAS has to actively
aspire for the wisdom and VIRTUES of the HIGHER MANAS (or
BUDDHI-MANAS) [Virtues are thoughts and acts that are brotherly,
generous, useful and harmonious with the great LAWS of Nature
(Karma).]
One could say that by giving away Theosophical ideas and ideals,
one acquires an ever-growing find of them for practical use.
If I insist on returning again and again to "fundamentals" it is
because one cannot understand QUADRATIC EQUATIONS and CALCULUS,
or calculate ORBITS of INTERSECTION, without a sound basic
knowledge of addition, subtraction, multiplication and division.
Those cannot be modified unless one insists on constructing his
own version of chaos. "Everybody was out of step but Johnny."
In my esteem you cannot go far wrong with the concepts of
Theosophy because one of its basic approaches is to confer with
others on the propositions it offers. Are they right or wrong?
And you are always entirely FREE to find out for yourself. But
if you desire to wander here and there and are unsure of what
Theosophy has to offer, then indeed you waste time, and so do I.
Best wishes,

Dallas

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Mauri


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