Theos-Talk Archives (October 2000 Message tt00084)

ssk,

Thanks. The Soul manifests periodically as the appearance of ever-
perfecting personalities. It is beyond all-possible-thought, beyond even
the perfected Intellect. And existence does not exist. To exist is to be
exhiled. Existence IS existence, nothing for it to be exhiled from. It is
the All. Not being. Not non-being. But both. I agree. Thanks. In this
context 0 is existent. I get easily boggled. Doubt everything I write,
please. I'm struggling.

ec
----- Original Message -----
From: <kellogg@west.net>
To: <theos-talk@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World No. 9 (bit of numerology/maths)


> 0 is the existent, the others only apparently so.
>
> ssk
>
>
> >From: "Eugene Carpenter" <Ecarpent@co.la.ca.us>
> >Reply-To: theos-talk@egroups.com
> >To: <theos-talk@egroups.com>
> >CC: <poles@iitp.ru>, "Esoteric Science" <escience@listbot.com>
> >Subject: Re: Theos-World No. 9 (bit of numerology/maths)
> >Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 08:18:44 -0700
> >
> >Sham,
> >
> >Thankyou for your very interesting information. Theosophy and numbers
are
> >a
> >most interesting subject and a major, perhaps the major, key to
> >understanding everything.
> >
> >I am sparked by your mention of 0 as the non-existant. Over twenty years
I
> >have been entertained by the good possibility that 0,1,2 are the
"numbers"
> >(Pythagorus asserted that 3 was the first number, the first form, the
> >triangle) corresponding to the trinity as pertains to consciousness. For
me
> >zero represents the consciousness aspect.
> >
> >1. 0- consciousness of the will, full and unconditioned, empty, pure
> >energy, a sea of fire, love/consciousness itself
> >
> >2. 1- consciousness of love
> >
> >3. 2- consciousness of the Intellect, contrast of consciousness of 0
and
> >1; the defining aspect, binary counting system, beginning of all logical
> >processes
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Using set notation one is given opportunity for additional potential
> >insights:
> >
> >( )
> >
> >( ( ) )
> >
> >( ( ), ( ( ) ) )
> >
> >
> >These seem to correspond nicely to the first and most abstract planes or
> >subplanes in a set of seven planes(states of consciousness) like the
> >Logoic,
> >Monadic, and Atmic planes.
> >
> >The most basic trinity, of which consciousness itself would be an aspect,
> >would be:
> >
> >The will aspect itself
> >The love/consciousness aspect itself
> >The intellectual aspect itself
> >
> >so, above I refer only to the consciousness
> >aspect as it becomes aware of will, love, and intellect.
> >
> >
> >It might be more accurate to refer to 0 as both being and non-being,
> >existant and non-existant rather than as non-existant. The term
> >non-existant might be best reserved for the will aspect itself rather
than
> >consciousness of the will aspect. This jives nicely with the circle as
> >dividing/uniting it's inside area with the outside.
> >
> >The symbols for the most basic trinity of will, love/consciousness and
> >intellect might best be:
> >
> >1.
> >2. 0
> >3. 1
> >
> >or in set notation:
> >
> >1.
> >2. ( )
> >3. ( ( ) )
> >
> >This all jives nicely within my struggling mind.
> >
> >
> >Recapitulation:
> >
> >Major and basic trinity, the three aspects:
> >
> >1.
> >2. ( ) or zero or 0
> >3. ( () ) or one or 1
> >
> >
> >The trinity of the second aspect(love/consciousness):
> >
> >
> >1. ( ) or zero or 0
> >
> >2. ( () ) or one or 1
> >
> >3. ( (), ( () ) ) or two or 2, the beginning or basis of the binary
> >counting system(relates to Binah)
> >
> >
> >
> >What do you think? If true this would help theosophy communicate in the
> >realm of mathematics and geometry and rise above the different and
> >difficult
> >use of words when discussing the trinity(of consciousness) or the most
> >basic trinity of all the three aspects of the "one".
> >
> >
> >
> >Gene
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Shampan-e-Shindh" <shampan@zip.com.au>
> >To: "Theosophy Talk" <theos-talk@egroups.com>
> >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 6:44 PM
> >Subject: Theos-World No. 9 (bit of numerology/maths)
> >
> >
> > > Dear List,
> > >
> > > No. 9 has great significance in many beliefs. I did not know
> > > about the B'hai temple having nine corners. I learn all the time
> > > from your postings.
> > >
> > > I have discussed about 9 with some mystics, I put my
> > > interpretation, they did not quite accept but did not reject
> > > either. I was only a teenager, so they perhaps did not want to
> > > disappoint me.
> > >
> > > 9 is a symbol of "all in it" in very many ways. Such as, if you
> > > add all numbers from 1 to 9 together they come to 45, if you wish
> > > to add the 0 with it, still remains 45. With 45, add the two
> > > digits up, 4+5= 9 again.
> > >
> > > 9 the symbol of all known, and the 1 unknown (the non-material
> > > no. cannot define), add them together and you have 10. Add 1 and
> > > 0, you get 1. As in, all a part of the big "ONE", only if you
> > > consider the non-existent (0) and the undefined existent (1) with
> > > all the known (9).
> > >
> > > If you are interested in mathematical marvel, here is something I
> > > did out of curiousity.
> > >
> > > Time table of all no. when you start adding the digits and notice
> > > the results, there is a certain progression.
> > >
> > > one of the simple ones is time-table of 3
> > > 3, 6, 9, 12,15,18,21,24 if you add them up they are
> > > 3,6,9,3,6,9,3,6,9 and so on
> > >
> > > Bit more complex is 7 (another would be 5)
> > > 7, 14, 21, 28, 35, 42, 49, 56, 63, 70 when added they are 7, 5,
> > > 3, 1, 8, 6, 4, 2, 9, 7 and so on
> > >
> > > And 9
> > > 9,18,27,36,45, 54, 63, 72.........they all add upto 9. And
> > > nothing else.
> > >
> > > I better stop again. :))
> > >
> > > Thankfully,
> > > Sham
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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