Theos-Talk Archives (October 2000 Message tt00078)

Sham,

Thankyou for your very interesting information. Theosophy and numbers are a
most interesting subject and a major, perhaps the major, key to
understanding everything.

I am sparked by your mention of 0 as the non-existant. Over twenty years I
have been entertained by the good possibility that 0,1,2 are the "numbers"
(Pythagorus asserted that 3 was the first number, the first form, the
triangle) corresponding to the trinity as pertains to consciousness. For me
zero represents the consciousness aspect.

1. 0- consciousness of the will, full and unconditioned, empty, pure
energy, a sea of fire, love/consciousness itself

2. 1- consciousness of love

3. 2- consciousness of the Intellect, contrast of consciousness of 0 and
1; the defining aspect, binary counting system, beginning of all logical
processes





Using set notation one is given opportunity for additional potential
insights:

( )

( ( ) )

( ( ), ( ( ) ) )


These seem to correspond nicely to the first and most abstract planes or
subplanes in a set of seven planes(states of consciousness) like the Logoic,
Monadic, and Atmic planes.

The most basic trinity, of which consciousness itself would be an aspect,
would be:

The will aspect itself
The love/consciousness aspect itself
The intellectual aspect itself

so, above I refer only to the consciousness
aspect as it becomes aware of will, love, and intellect.


It might be more accurate to refer to 0 as both being and non-being,
existant and non-existant rather than as non-existant. The term
non-existant might be best reserved for the will aspect itself rather than
consciousness of the will aspect. This jives nicely with the circle as
dividing/uniting it's inside area with the outside.

The symbols for the most basic trinity of will, love/consciousness and
intellect might best be:

1.
2. 0
3. 1

or in set notation:

1.
2. ( )
3. ( ( ) )

This all jives nicely within my struggling mind.


Recapitulation:

Major and basic trinity, the three aspects:

1.
2. ( ) or zero or 0
3. ( () ) or one or 1


The trinity of the second aspect(love/consciousness):


1. ( ) or zero or 0

2. ( () ) or one or 1

3. ( (), ( () ) ) or two or 2, the beginning or basis of the binary
counting system(relates to Binah)



What do you think? If true this would help theosophy communicate in the
realm of mathematics and geometry and rise above the different and difficult
use of words when discussing the trinity(of consciousness) or the most
basic trinity of all the three aspects of the "one".



Gene


----- Original Message -----
From: "Shampan-e-Shindh" <shampan@zip.com.au>
To: "Theosophy Talk" <theos-talk@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 6:44 PM
Subject: Theos-World No. 9 (bit of numerology/maths)


> Dear List,
>
> No. 9 has great significance in many beliefs. I did not know
> about the B'hai temple having nine corners. I learn all the time
> from your postings.
>
> I have discussed about 9 with some mystics, I put my
> interpretation, they did not quite accept but did not reject
> either. I was only a teenager, so they perhaps did not want to
> disappoint me.
>
> 9 is a symbol of "all in it" in very many ways. Such as, if you
> add all numbers from 1 to 9 together they come to 45, if you wish
> to add the 0 with it, still remains 45. With 45, add the two
> digits up, 4+5= 9 again.
>
> 9 the symbol of all known, and the 1 unknown (the non-material
> no. cannot define), add them together and you have 10. Add 1 and
> 0, you get 1. As in, all a part of the big "ONE", only if you
> consider the non-existent (0) and the undefined existent (1) with
> all the known (9).
>
> If you are interested in mathematical marvel, here is something I
> did out of curiousity.
>
> Time table of all no. when you start adding the digits and notice
> the results, there is a certain progression.
>
> one of the simple ones is time-table of 3
> 3, 6, 9, 12,15,18,21,24 if you add them up they are
> 3,6,9,3,6,9,3,6,9 and so on
>
> Bit more complex is 7 (another would be 5)
> 7, 14, 21, 28, 35, 42, 49, 56, 63, 70 when added they are 7, 5,
> 3, 1, 8, 6, 4, 2, 9, 7 and so on
>
> And 9
> 9,18,27,36,45, 54, 63, 72.........they all add upto 9. And
> nothing else.
>
> I better stop again. :))
>
> Thankfully,
> Sham
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