Theos-Talk Archives (September 2000 Message tt00039)

Sept 29th 2000

Dear Kees:

Thank you.

I am attaching some answers below in the text.  I hope that this
will help us both.  Do let me know.

Dal

D. T. B.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Kees van Asperen [mailto:van.asperen@hccnet.nl]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 1:51 PM
To: study@blavatsky.net
Subject: [bn-study] Re: Practical use of some ideas arising in
"UNITY AND DIVERSITY"

Dallas TenBroecks wrote:

> Some PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS OF UNITY in DIVERSITY
>                OBSERVATION:
>
>
> 1       From our center of perception we are able to range over
> an enormous distance as well as consider the smallest of those
> components.  The powers of the Mind has no limits.
>
> 2.      Unity lies in the potency of the PERCEIVER (Observer,
> Witness) which is within each sentient, conscious unit.  The
ONE
> is always stable and sees the "many."  Diversity pertains to
> unitary perceptions while Unity is the power of the
> Witness/Perceiver.  Memory is the capacity of the Perceiver to
> recall the impress made by earlier observations.  It permits
the
> proving of Law and laws in operation.

What are we talking here? Is it Akasha? Then we cannot speak of
'earlier' or 'future' observations as akasa is beyond time. Also
Dallas has omitted Maya in these 'observations'. Only true
perceptions are kept in akasa. Not the day to day humbug that we
think we see.

DTB;    to my mind AKASA is the eternal recording (memory) tablet
of all the processes of evolutionary progress.  There have been
Manvantaras that are far earlier than our present one.  Evolution
is not limited to this one only.  It is a TOTAL record of all
events, including those of "maya" and "humbug."  (The WHOLE
cannot be fractioned, but its various aspects during
"manifestation" may be seen to emanate concurrently as well as,
as a result of earlier causes.)
Maya is a matter of delusion.  The Perceiver working from the
limited condition of present conditions finds it difficult to
deal in metaphysical ultimates which include timelessness,
dimensionless-ness, and partial or faulty memory impressions. (As
I see it.)


> 3.      The actuality (reality) of the ONE is also the
actuality
> and potential of every other Unit as of the whole.  [ Hence the
> SD teaches that all MONADS are united and affect each other. ]
> This is a statement that sets parameters for universality and
> individuality, as well as impartiality, impersonality and
> compassion.

What is meant by 'parameters'? I don't see why unity also implies
compassion.
DTB     :PARAMETERS are the limits within UNITY of delusion
(MAYA).  Such parameters are differentiations within the ONE.


> 4.      The interaction of cause and effect between Monads
implies their permanence.

Monads are permanent all right. Cause and effect have got nothing
to do with this.
DTB:    CAUSE & EFFECT imply Karma.  Everything is included in
this, whether the WHOLE or parts of the Whole.  (This is as I see
it.)

> Immortality and eternity (in time), and are logical derivations
of this.
> REINCARNATION of the causal
> spiritual/soul is posited as this continuous base for memory
and
> progress in learning.  This process includes individuals as
well
> as races and worlds.  This sets the basis for the Laws of
Analogy
> and Correspondence in the Universe.  As "Above," so "below."
The
> Buddha is the fruit of countless lives of struggle and effort
to
> achieve an inner, fixed focus on the ONE -- which is ALL.  The
> Buddha is the UNIVERSAL BROTHER.  "Buddha" is derived from
'budh'
> or 'wisdom.'

The basis for the laws of analogy was already set in observation
2. The learning process doesn't cause analogy. It does however
cause periodicity.

DTB:    KARMA includes cycles, analogy, OBSERVER, observations,
UNITY and plurality.  These are all coexistent in space, time and
being. (As I see it.)

> 5.      Interaction is know in all departments of Nature (the
> study of SCIENCE) to follow strict laws of exchange and
> impression.  In the East this has been denominated KARMA
> (action).  It is observed that reaction is defined by the
impact
> of any action (on any plane, physical, emotional, mental,
etc...)
> Hence LAW, fairness, justice are based on this concept.
Chance,
> luck and happenstance are eliminated.  Analogy and
correspondence
> prevail everywhere, as recognized in all departments of
Science,
> philosophy and psychology.

These laws are not strict at all. Only very primitive beings,
lake atoms, follow these laws promptly. Quantum mechanics tells
us that even this primitive beings sometimes resist the law and
follow a path of their own.
DTB:    SELF-DETERMINATION at the atomic or sub-atomic level does
not imply a lack of law, as I see it.  It may imply that we do
not yet know what those laws are.

Now humans are known for their ability to resist or bend the laws
of nature. Being able to resist these laws is part of the growing
consciousness.
Let us redefine 'law' into: "A series of events usually happening
after a given stimulus is applied to a given situation"  This is
not strict and it applies as well to laws of physics because
atoms have such a low level of consciousness that you can safely
assume they will always react the same way to the same stimulus.
Minerals, e.g. crystals, are less predictable in their growth.
Humans are very well able to resist following stimuli, although
they feel them.
Karma as described here is much to mechanical to be just. In a
court of law verdicts cannot be made by a computer. A human judge
must do it, because every new case really is new. Justice has
nothing to do with a mechanical process.
DTB:    Justice implies (to me) fairness or equal treatment to
all according to the MOTIVE for choice or action.  How would it
be possible to be fair, just and compassionate in human justice
if  all the factors are not made clear?  In what way would human
justice be accurate if there were not some common rules (laws)
that apply?  What are "mitigating circumstances?"  How would they
fall outside of rules and laws applied for all or to other
individuals?


> 6.      The purpose of this vast diversity in manifestation and
> interaction of Units of Consciousness (Monads) is said to be
> "Perfection."  Since the progression of evolutionary periods is
> cyclic and unlimited, "Perfection" should be viewed as a series
> of "graduating" stages.  These are achieved progressively as
the
> "Monad" advances from stage to stage, level to level of its
> self-propelled education.

The SD teaches a limit to the cycles (a year of Brahma). The
education at the lower levels is not self-propelled but guided by
higher beings. The higher this level, the more self-propelled
education will be. From the human stage on self-propelling of
education is necessary.
DTB:    SD II p. 68-72 gives some very long cycles and also
indicates that longer ones prevail in TOTAL EVOLUTIONARY matters.

HIGHER BEINGS who once were "Men" such as we now are immortal
MONADS that have graduated to higher responsibilities in the same
School of development and progress which confront all of us even
today.  The President of the University today was the infant in
kindergarten of 70 or 80 years ago.  The Immortal Ego as it
progresses fulfils many duties and responsibilities, including
assisting in the education of the young.  Yet this matter of
teaching is not imposition.  It is rather, an educing from each
student of whatever 'youth,' the knowledge that is innate within
them.  The rate of development depends in each case upon the
capacity to respond   Plato's Dialogs: "Timaeus" and "Critas"
illustrates this knowledge of geometry to be present in the
ignorant slave-boy.  The only imposition of this life-time is a
language and nomenclature for places, locations, relationships,
grammar, syntax, melody -- which may be much different
incarnation after incarnation.
A great deal of higher education is found to be self-selected and
self-propelled.


> 7.      The conclusion is that "Evolution" is a continuous and
> never-ceasing process and that it involves every being of
> whatever level of achievement.  We might call this an
> "equal-opportunity programme."  Its periods are marked by
Cycles
> of time within the never to be defined DURATION.  No precise
> definition in our limited terms can be made for
> NON-MANIFESTATION.

Evolution does involve every being all right. But it doesn't go
on forever.
Yes, non-manifestation what will that be?
Will it be the end of it all or the result of it all?
Will we know anything once we are non-manifest?
Who can tell .....
DTB:    By analogy we could apply our present situation to your
observations.
NON-MANIFESTATION might be said to correspond to sleep between 2
days of activity, just as the "after-death" states (Kama-loca and
Devachan) form in their aggregate a rest-period  between
life-conditions.  So periods of non-manifestation might give the
worlds and galaxies a period of rest and reflection.
Apparently a period of non-manifestation is also one of
reflection.  It is not one of learning new things,  that seems to
be reserved to periods when our minds are able to be selective
and exercise the power to choose.
The rest periods would appear to be reflective, while those of
active consciousness would be creative and active growth-periods.
I HOPE THIS IS OF SOME HELP.  Best wishes,

Dallas


Friendly greetings,
Kees van Asperen.



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