Theos-Talk Archives (July 2000 Message tt00039)

The ideas of rebirth and the rarer reincarnation are penetrating science via
the work of Ian Stevenson.  His work overlaps with my field, forensic
pathology, as he has shown many case of reincarnation wherein the child has
rare birthmarks that correspond to the gunshot wounds in previous
personality's bodies who killed themselves or were killed by other(s).  It
is this sort of physical evidence that tends to substantiate these ideas
such that rational human beings can see that there must be individual
consciousness after death and then that opens every mind to the knowledge
that there are human beings who have been around and have become very very
wise or talented as artists, etc.  His book WHERE REINCARNATION AND BIOLOGY
INTERSECT  is available and startlingly pertinent in choosing theosophy over
some materialistic philosophy.  Of the scores of scientists in the Society
For Scientific Exploration there is now minimal if any debate about whether
or not reincarnation has been proved or not.  It has been proved
scientifically.  The only debate, weak, but brought up none the less, is as
to whether the data can be explained by Super Psi rather than reincarnation.
Very few argue this these days.  No one argues that there is some better
explanation of the data that exists within the old paradigm.

I asert: materialism is dead.  Reincarnation has been proven.  Replication
studies are in progress.

EC


-----Original Message-----
From: dalval <dalval@nwc.net>
To: basic@blavatsky.net <basic@blavatsky.net>
Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 12:08 PM
Subject: Theos-World RE: [bn-basic] A question on accidental deaths


>July 18th
>
>Accidental deaths, are not impelled by the same motive as a n
>attempt at suicide.  Karma will be different.  Accidents come
>about as a result of past karma of course, as everything is
>related to Karma.  ( See SD
>I 653,  II 560 )  Nothing comes by chance.
>
>NDE are reported by those to whom they are important as
>opportunities to review one's life and motives.  They indicate a
>permanence that survives physical death and give hope for
>continuation of life as a MIND-BEING.  If One decides to return
>into the body, then a change in attitude may become noticeable -
>a serenity, a lack of anxiety as to the mystery to death.  One no
>longer dears it any more than going to sleep is fearful or
>terrible.
>
>NDE experiences are not common, or perhaps we ought to say not
>frequently remembered.  Those who remember have some
>consideration to do and that can only be resolved personally.
>
>A knowledge of Theosophical Psychology and the 7-fold nature of
>man and his consciousness is a most useful tool to possess.
>
>Those who are accident victims and cannot or do not return to
>conscious life, we are told, may spend a length of time
>equivalent to that which they would have lived in the body in a
>"sleeping" or torpid state.  When the normal time to die arrives
>the process of death starts and Kama-local and Devachan are a
>normal part of that, followed, then, by rebirth in the normal
>way.
>
>Our sense of time does not prevail there any more than it does
>when we dream enormous detail of condition and action in the few
>seconds of actual dreaming experience, compared with our
>conscious processes when we are "awake," and thinking about what
>we perceive.  As a correspondence:  One eats a meal quickly, but
>it takes many hours to digest it.
>
>Best wishes,
>
>
>D. T. B.
>
>==========================
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: A H
>Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 10:13 AM
>
> Subject: [bn-basic] A question on accidental deaths
>
>If the victims of accidental death, like suicides, do not enter
>Devachan
>until the time when they would have died naturally, why then do
>certain
>people who have attempted suicide (but failed) or were severely
>injured  in
>a car accident for example still report the usual tunnel
>experience of
>traditional NDE's?  Shouldn't they instead be 'somewhere' in Kama
>Loka?
>
>Angel Hazen
>
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