Theos-Talk Archives (June 2000 Message tt00205)

In a message dated 06/25/00 1:24:29 PM, ecarpent@co.la.ca.us writes:

>True.  There is exoteric- personality- dominated- Christian- Churchianity
>and there is the esoteric- love- dominated- true Christian- faith.  This
>is true in all the great religions.

No disagreement here... Although not entirely true of the "Wisdom Religion" 
which is the greatest of all, and has no exoteric, personality dominated 
teachings -- of which Jesus, The Christ, was in perfect agreement with.

>The new testament doesn't seem to teach re-incarnation as it is an esoteric
>text and teaches from Christ's point of view, and outside of his parables
>to the masses, is targeted toward disciples of love.  Re-incarnation is true
>from the exoteric personality point of view but not true from the esoteric
>inner Christ Soul point of view.  The Soul is Eternal.  Personalities,
>little appearances on the world stage, come and go.  One eternal Individual
>is appearing with difference masks on the world stage from time to time.
>The exoteric and esoteric points of view can be harmonized.  Each is correct
>from the proper perspective and from the proper motive and sincere heart.
>This is my opinion only, of course, not a proclamation of truth.  That's
>beyond me.

Of course, you are entitled to your opinion.  But what you say makes little 
sense from a theosophical point of view.  The new Testament is not "esoteric" 
-- since the esoteric knowledge upon which Jesus' based his sermons were 
never given out in its edited and doctored printed versions.  In fact, as an 
exoteric, man made document based on the hearsay reports of only a few of 
Jesus disciples (with much contradictory apocrypha left out) there are no 
esoteric or hidden occult teachings in it at all (discounting the euphemistic 
and completely misunderstood "Revelations" of John).  You can't have your 
cake and eat it, too. 

There can be only one correct view of reincarnation and karma -- which is 
based on the immutable laws of the universe that stem out of the Divine, 
Absolute "Oneness" or "Beness" (Ein Soph, Parabrahm), or the "real" 
unknowable, unexplainable and impersonal "Godhead" -- along with the 
"Fundamental Principles" that govern ALL of its manifestations, involutions 
and evolutions -- which Jesus never spoke about except by inference, as 
parables, or as conclusive recommendations or observations reported as "eye 
witnesses" by his esoterically ignorant disciples... Nor did he demonstrate 
these truths, other than as unexplained, so called "miracles" -- (which were 
really based on the true knowledge of the correlation of natural, occult 
forces and energies and their associative "Siddhis" or psychic powers known 
to all "Self realized" or "enlightened" Adepts and Masters).  Jesus even said 
-- speaking as the direct reflection of the Supreme Spirit, or "I am ThAT I 
am" (as God or THAT Spiritual consciousness identified itself to Moses) -- "I 
AM the Way, the Light and the Truth"... Referring to the Spiritual Soul or 
higher SELF within us all... While he told his disciples that they must pray t
o THAT God in "private," and that even they could perform his miracles once 
they realized their true nature as being identical to his own -- as well as 
to THAT God's.  

Also, Jesus didn't always speak in parables, since he told the Rabbis -- who 
asked him how he became so knowledgeable in the "Law" as a "Scribe" -- that 
it was learned from his "father in Heaven" (referring to the dead Joseph, at 
whose feet he worked as a carpenter) -- who orally passed on to him the Torah 
(laws)... As is done by every father to his sons in the ancient Hebraic 
tradition of oral teachings... And, as is still done, to this very day, in 
the most traditionally pure and kabbalistically knowledgeable Hebrew 
families.      

According to the esoteric Brahmanic, Kabbalistic and Theosophical teachings, 
the "individualized soul" is not eternal (when we speak of the personalized 
"soul," (Rauch) as Manas linked to the lower, animal nature -- as the OT 
apparently assumes). It is only the "higher soul" or Self (Nephesh) that is 
eternal.  This is another example of the confusion that Christianity has 
engendered in its followers, along with its other mistaken dogmas based on 
misinterpretation of the esoteric Hebrew Kabbalistic, Theosophical, or 
"Divine Wisdom" -- which IS the whole "truth" when correctly comprehended.  

However, this does not, in any way, contradict or deny the value and truth of 
the "Heart Doctrine" as taught by the Rebbe Yeshua (Jesus), or the esoteric 
teachings of reincarnation and karma given directly to his disciples, and 
confirmed by his statements quoted in the NT, as well as by the teachings in 
the OT (or Talmud) -- which he thoroughly understood... But, that were later 
distorted by the "Christian Church" founders and its "God annointed" ruling 
Kings, into their pernicious anathemas and false interpretations leading to 
the dogmas of vicarious atonement, resurrection, heaven, hell, a personal, 
vengeful God, the separate Devil or Satan, the denial of reincarnation and 
karma, etc.  

(To understand Jesus' acceptance of reincarnation, read (with discriminatve 
understanding): Matt. 11:10,14, 15; Matt.16:13,14,15; St. John 17:5; Malachi 
4:5).  Yeshua's understanding of karma is too obvious from his fundamental 
moral and ethical teachings to even refer to any specific biblical references 
other than, "Figs from thistles don't grow," and "As you sow, so shall you 
reap", etc.         

It's the Monad, the "spiritual soul" alone -- composed of higher, irrational 
or intuitive Manas, linked through Buddhi to the Atma, the Spirit in man, the 
true Christos (which, as a "ray" of the Supreme Spirit, is identical to it) 
-- that is eternal.  But, that Spiritual Self has nothing to do with the 
"personality" or temporary existences of the animalized, "personal soul," the 
"illusory" self, or lower nature -- who makes the karma (whether ignorantly 
or intentionally) and which,  governed by the fundamental and immutable laws 
of universal justice based on cause and effect, cycles and periodicity, and 
mediated by the influential interpenetration of the holographic 
information-carrying, seven fold, "coadunate but not consubstantial" 
spiritual and material energy fields -- forces the spiritual Soul or higher 
Self to pay the piper, so to speak... As a direct karmic result of the 
ignorance, or the malicious intent of the false "animal soul" (that the 
Christians falsely say has only "one life in the body" before it is judged by 
the Christian God, and is either punished or rewarded by Him).  

Therefore, there is no need, and indeed, no rationale, scientifically, 
philosophically, or otherwise, for a priest invented, anthropomorphized 
"personal God" to punish us for our sins in the "eternal fires of hell."  
Karma, through the equal and opposite reactive power of cyclic law, takes 
care of that all by itself.  Thus, "Vengeance is mine says the Lord" is a 
perfectly true statement -- provided we substitute for the English word 
"Lord" the word "Law" (which is the real meaning and translation of the 
original Hebrew).  Also, we might ask, if there were such a supposed, all 
powerful, and humanly vengeful "being" (pictured in many Christian's 
conceptions as a "male" with a long beard) that "created Man in his own 
image" -- who or what "created" Him?  And, if He (Jehovah) is such an all 
pervading purveyor of "Goodness" and "Love," where did the similarly 
personalized "Satan" or the "Devil" come from? 

Therefore, it follows, that so long as that "personal" soul, or lower self 
remains in ignorance of its true nature, it is obligated -- by the force of 
the "skandas", or reactive karmic tendencies it alone creates –- to impel its 
spiritual partner, the higher Self or spiritual soul, to reincarnate and pay 
the piper, so to speak, in incarnated human suffering -- with no conscious 
memory of its past "sins" -- until all the injustices, imbalances, and 
disharmonies (that it's illusory animalized and ignorant counterpart 
inadvertently or intentionally created) have been compensated for, balanced 
and harmonized.  That is the real meaning of "God's justice" and the purpose 
of reincarnation. To fully understand this, I suggest you carefully study 
William Q. Judge's "Aphorisms on Karma."

But, all is not hopeless for such temporarily "lost souls"... And 
reincarnation need not be an individually uncontrolled, automatic process... 
Since, the Spiritual Self -- once freed of its karma by elimination of its 
animal soul's ignorance through the gaining of spiritual knowledge and 
wisdom, along with the realization that it is the one and only Self of all, 
and by reversing all of its lower nature's impure motives by sincerely vowing 
to correctly follow the pure "Heart Doctrine" as taught by Yeshua (as well as 
Guatama, the Buddha) , or the "path" of "altruism" taught by theosophy -- can 
then transcend its past karma... Either by selfishly entering Nirvana and 
escaping rebirth in this Manvantara, or, with the realization that "the Self 
of one is the Self of all" -- by accepting the role of a "Bodhisattva," and 
continuing to help and teach others, while practicing "universal 
brotherhood," for as many incarnations it takes to resolve all the harm 
caused by its former "separateness." (Due to the selfish, desire driven 
intent, or "sins," of all its individualized lower selves, in direct 
violation or ignorance of their common higher Self consciousness, or 
conscience, and without understanding of the immutable workings of karmic 
law.)  

Each such Bodhisattva (and there could be many of them "waking up" and "born 
again" every day), is the true meaning of the "return of the Christ" 
incarnate.  When all of us have reached that stage of enlightenment, is when 
the "Universal Brotherhood" of all mankind will have been achieved.  But, all 
we can do now is become the "nucleus" of such a brotherhood.  This is the 
primary goal of the Theosophical Movement, that transcends all religions, and 
synthesizes their commonly rooted fundamental truths into one "Wisdom 
religion."  That is why "a true theosophist" considers  him/herself "a member 
of no cult or sect, but a member of each and all"... And, whose "end in view" 
is to attain "a truer realization of the Self" so as to be "better able to 
help and teach others," as well as to become a "nucleus of Universal 
Brotherhood," with a true understanding of the "Fundamental Principles" and 
their underlying and immutable "Laws of Universal Nature," or Karma, that 
leads inadvertently to reincarnation, in order to fulfill the true God's 
"impersonal" justice.

I hope that this clarifies a bit further the real nature of God, its Divine 
justice, the lower self, the higher Self, and their dual souls, and serves as 
some "food for thought" for us to chew on.

LHM 




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