Theos-Talk Archives (June 2000 Message tt00168)

In a message dated 06/12/00 7:49:21 PM, ernesto@bmu.com.pe writes:

>Dear Mr. Leon Maurer:
>You wrote:
>>
>> It follows, that if we fully understand the three Fundamental Principles,
>> and particularly, the second -- which implies that the rules governing all
>> evolution of the universe (from its initial self awareness in spirit, to 
the
>> myriad forms [fields] of matter that emanate and evolve out of its inherent
>> and infinite "space") are the "laws of cycles and periodicity" -- we can go
>> back in our mind's eye to the origin of cycles in the spinning energy of 
pre
>> cosmic, non dimensional, zero-point space... And, then, by following the
>> progression of its emanation and evolution by a sort of graphical 
analytical
>> mind experimentation ("meditation with a seed," according to Patanjali)
>> -- we can envision how these proto-circles of "spinning energy" propagate
>> themselves to maintain their eternal "wholeness" -- although separated
>> into the seven fold "planes" of bubbles within bubbles within bubbles, 
etc., 
>> as already implied, but not yet proven, in the new, multidimensional 
>> Superstring and M-brane theories...
>>
>> With such knowledge, coupled with the use of analogy and correspondence,
>> we can begin to logically as well as intuitively realize that all cyclic
>> phenomena -- (starting with  the initial emanation of the primal fields and
>> ending with the progression of the rounds and races, the inner natures of
>> man, the chakras, etc.) -- always occurs in seven analogous stages and
>> appears three dimensionally on seven simultaneous planes ("in coadunation,
>> but not in consubstantiality").
>
>There is something that I still don't understand.  I could agree with you 
that,
>following those indications, humanity should pass through seven analogous
>stages. But, is it also a necessary conclusion, from those indications, that 
the
>stages would mean Races? Why not simply periods?  Is it always period = 
>Race? Couldnīt it be other way?  

It is both.  With the hope of not being accused of oversimplifying, we might 
say that everything is interdependently based on the idea that spin = circle 
= cycle, and refers to the seven fold nature of the first or primal manifest 
cycle as expressed in seven stages or changes of conditions during 7 periods 
of time, starting from zero -- e.g., looking at it from a graphical (sine 
wave) point of view, as follows:

(State or condition/time period) 
     (1/1) Rising to the positive peak. 
     (2/0) Changing direction at the positive peak. 
     (3/2) Falling to zero. 
     (4/0) Crossing through zero and changing polarity. 
     (5/3) Falling to the negative trough. 
     (6/0) changing direction at the negative trough. 
     (7/4) Rising to zero.  
After which, the cycle repeats the same changes in seven states or conditions 
and 4 periods of time... But, at a further level of involution (which 
reflects itself in subsequent evolution) that can be represented as a 
"spiral" or "vortex."  

All cycles of involution and evolution, then, are based on these seven 
phenomenal aspects of the primal cycle (subject to our conscious 
interference) -- which is both infinite in extension as well as duration -- 
with all subsequent cyclic changes occurring "within" the envelope of the 
primal, all containing field.  See diagram at:  
http://members.aol.com/uniwldarts/uniworld.artisans.guild/chakrafield.html

After the initial impulse of manifestation and inflation of the initial 
"spinergy" to the primal field of "electrical" force that encompasses the 
whole universe, the cycles repeat analogously and correspondingly... And, as 
the manifest energy decreases and its lines of force spiral in toward its 
primal center (which is everywhere) -- to form the fields within fields 
within fields that, together, eventually evolve the universe out of the 
involved patterns of forms -- "remembered" in its energy interference 
patterns (of its previous involution and evolution) that are reflected and 
refracted through every descending energy level, field, or plane of 
subsequent gradual and sequential materialization, to holistically encompass 
the evolution of all things and levels of consciousness and matter in the 
entire, universe -- which exists, eternally, within and around the absolute, 
"empty" space that empowers it...  And, which we consider as "divine," simply 
because we cannot grasp or explain its inherent infinite nature with our 
finite minds. 

>Is it also a necessary conclusion that the first 
>Race would be not physical, or that the Second and Third Races would have 
the 
>special form of reproduction that is indicated in the SD?  That old man had 
to 
>be androgynous? Or is it also a necessary conclusion the enormous and 
>(actually) non scientifically supported antiquity of each Race, including 
(and 
>over all) the Fifth Root Race (a question apparently eluded by Bart)?

By analogy and correspondence, joined with reason and direct intuition, 
accessed through meditation -- when one thoroughly grasps the scientific, 
philosophical and religious connotations and interrelationships of the three 
fundamental principles -- all that follows... And, can be easily accepted...  
 Resulting in firm inner conviction, by the "equal minded" (open, 
simultaneously, to both higher [Buddhic] and lower [Kamic} Manas) thinking 
human being.  Therefore, based on such understandings, as HPB pointed out, 
all such esoteric teachings of rounds and races can be proven to oneself to 
be both reasonable and essential.  

Reductive science alone, as presently practiced with its built-in 
materialistic bias, cannot be relied on for validation or proof of any of the 
above facts of Nature... Except, as they "appear" to us to be on the physical 
plane -- subject to our necessarily imperfect and limited physical senses and 
observational tools... Although, they may be implied by the perfect tools of 
pure mathematics -- as has been shown recently in the fields of post modern 
quantum physics, with their new theories of Superstrings, M-branes, quantum 
fields and gravity, zero-point energy, etc... Implying, that there are 
"explicate" and "implicate" orders of nature that resolve into 
multidimensional fields that encompass both consciousness and matter, etc.  
It still remains for them, however to link such knowledge with the teachings 
of theosophy that carries it to it ultimate resolution as the "theory of 
everything" -- which is science's present goal.  Fortunately, theosophy has 
already given us such a theory and its ultimate conclusions to mull over for 
the benefit of our own, and others whom we can show the path to ultimate 
enlightenment or Self realization -- for the benefit of all humanity.
>
>It doesnīt seem to be so.  And, if those doctrines canīt be followed from
>the indications you give, Iīd have to ask again: which is the ultimate reason
>that should leave us (in a rational Justification) to accept those doctrines?
> The trust I mentioned?

No.  it should be based solely on the intuition and logical reasoning that 
synthesizes and understands the analogies and correspondences, coupled with 
meditative direct inner experience, that "prove" (in ones own consciousness 
and mind) and gives one the solidly grounded conviction that "as above so 
below" is a valid presumption... And, that the universe is, in actuality, 
governed by the laws of cycles, along with analogy and correspondence -- and 
is modified, positively or negatively, by the karma that all sentient beings 
willfully produce -- consciously or not. 

The scientific concept of such vibratory fields, their interpenetration, and 
the holographic nature of their information retention, transformation, and 
transmission "resonantly" through such "electrical" fields, is another lynch 
pin in helping grasp the unification of all aspects of the universe, and its 
ability to retain the memory of all its actions -- as energetic forces that 
ultimately must be resolved of all imbalances created by US -- as individual 
parts of such fields -- who make changes, good or bad, based on free will and 
individual choice.  Thus, all the objects of the Theosophical Movement and 
the teachings of the Masters (through the vehicle of HPB) are vindicated and 
can be trusted as truth -- without blind faith or reliance on "authorities."

LHM (with the help of .^. ;-)

-- THEOSOPHY WORLD -- Theosophical Talk -- theos-talk@theosophy.com

Letters to the Editor, and discussion of theosophical ideas and
teachings. To subscribe or unsubscribe, send a message consisting of
"subscribe" or "unsubscribe" to theos-talk-request@theosophy.com.