Theos-Talk Archives (May 2000 Message tt00311)

Hi Spencer,

What base are you using to translate letters into numbers? I can see, at
least I think I can, that you are using a=0, b=1, c=2 etc.  But how does L=2
if you are going from 0 to 9 repeatedly?   Could you also say in what sense
iron 'fe' resembles pi?

Thanks,

...Peter

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-theos-talk@THEOSOPHY.COM
> [mailto:owner-theos-talk@THEOSOPHY.COM]On Behalf Of Spencer
> Sent: 26 May 2000 15:10
> To: theos-talk@THEOSOPHY.COM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Fundamental theosohical principles and their
> relationship toscience.
>
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> Truth = 9 + 7 + 0 + 9 + 7 = 32 = 3 + 2 = 5
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> Light = 2 + 8 + 6 + 7 + 9 = 32 = 3 + 2 = 5
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> Buddha = 1 + 0 + 3 + 3 + 7 + 0 = 1 + 4 = 5
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> Nature = 3 + 0 + 9 + 0 + 7 + 4 = 23 = 2 + 3 = 5
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> Be-ness = 1 + 4 + 3 + 4 + 8 + 8 = 28 = 2 + 8 = 10
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> Meaningful?  I don't know.  Meaningless?  Perhaps.  It's probably nothing.
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> Life = 2 + 8 + 5 + 4 = 19 = 1 + 9 = 10
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> Suffering = 8 + 0 + 5 + 5 + 4 + 7 + 8 + 3 + 6 = 46 = 4 + 6 = 10
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> Life is suffering.                 Gautama Buddha
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> Life = suffering.                  Mathematical translation of 'is'
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> Life = sufring   (fe)             Associative Property of Equality
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> Life = surfing   (fe)             Commutative Property of Equality
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> Life = surfing   (Fe)            Periodic Table symbol for Iron
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> Iron attaches to a magnet.  (Fe) bears a striking resemblance to the
> mathematical constant, phi.
> What does any of this mean, if anything?
> Practice detachment.
>
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> LeonMaurer@aol.com wrote:
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> > To set the record a bit straighter for those who read these
> numerological
> > dialogues and who are not overly fascinated by apparently
> mystical numbers
> > that  -- while in many cases reflective of occult processes --
> are sometimes
> > presented and taken totally out of context... Consider the following.
> >
> > Without showing the logical basis of such numbers and their cabalistic
> > reductions -- with direct reference to and correlation with the
> nonlinear
> > cyclic and spherical forces ("music of the spheres") from which they
> > originate and reflect -- could be entirely superficial as well
> as meaningless
> > and misleading to most serious students of occult or esoteric
> theosophy --
> > especially, beginners.
> >
> > The "why" and "how" in these teachings and understandings are as equally
> > important as the "what" and "wherefor."  The I Ching is a good
> example of
> > this, since its  numbers and their relationships are simply a symbolic
> > reflection of the esoteric teachings given out in its
> commentaries, and have
> > no fundamental meaning in themselves -- except to serve as an symbolic
> > mathematical or geometric tool linking the objective questioner
> indirectly
> > with the subjectivity of the oracle -- whose metaphoric
> pronouncements, as
> > translated by the ancient Chinese Taoist philosophers, still
> requires, for
> > proper interpretation, a profound and intuitive knowledge of
> the spherical
> > and multidimnsional "tai-chi" forms of primal energy fields and
> the nonlinear
> > laws and relationships of their cycles and periodicities that require
> > nonlinear forms of mathematical geometries -- yet to be fully
> understood or
> > codified, except partially, perhaps, in the graphical interpretations of
> > fractal and non-euclidian geometries used in the new sciences of chaos,
> > "simplicity" and "complexity," as well as in some aspects of post modern
> > quantum and sub-quantum physics such as Superstring and
> Membrane theories.
> >
> > Notice that HPB in the Secret Doctrine, always explained the occult
> > derivations, relationships and significances whenever she made
> reference to
> > cabalistic numbers.  The reason for this is that one of the
> main purposes of
> > HPB's (and the Master's) exposure of esoteric theosophy was to help us
> > simultaneously combine nonlinear and linear (abstract and objective,
> > macrocosmic and microcosmic, as above so below, etc.)
> understandings, while
> > closing the gap and opening the bridge between linear left brain and
> > nonlinear right brain network-type thinking -- which, to thoroughly
> > comprehend the esoteric teachings, must be merged together.
> Her purpose (as
> > well as that of the Masters) was to awaken the intuition and assist in
> > training the linear and nonlinear linked graphical imagination
> of prospective
> > chelas and possible future initiates... The opposite of whom
> would be the
> > possibly brain washed blind believers in pseudo esoteric dogmas... As is
> > observed among many members of organized religions and
> followers of some so
> > called psychic cultists and other neo-theosophists or "new age"
> teachers --
> > who would like to see a "new world order" based on hierarchical
> and linear
> > numbers with the masses under easy control of their rulers
> (note the linear
> > connotation of the word "rulers") while still maintaining a semblance of
> > individual choice.
> > The quickest way to accomplish such mind control would be to teach their
> > members to either concentrate solely on the abstract level of pure
> > spirituality as well as its associated rituals (which makes them
> > non-resistors to their "controllers" or "gurus" mystical
> pronouncements), or
> > focus on the concrete level of numbers, formulas, letters and
> words (which
> > gives them an inclination to confine their thinking into an externally
> > determined linear order that blindly follows their leader's ends).
> > Unfortunately, this is highly prevalent, today, in many schools
> of so called
> > esoteric teachings, some of which profess to be based on fundamental
> > theosophy.
> >
> > It's good to remember, in light of the above, that the DNA
> linear numerical
> > code, for example, cannot function unless it is linked to the actual
> > multidimensional nonlinear Astral fields that organically empower the
> > proteins and magnetically guides their elements into their 3-dimensional
> > chemical forms and body positions.  Is this the reason that
> while science can
> > superficially observe, count, and analyze the structure of the genes
> > themselves, as well as understand the physical nature of the 4
> chemical bases
> > of amino acids that compose the genetic code, they can't
> entirely explain how
> > such codes work to actually build and position the 3-dimensional protein
> > molecules or biological organisms that the DNA-RNA (strings of code)
> > partially serves to guide?  They see only what they believe to
> be the cause
> > and the effect, but have little understanding of the actual
> coenergetic field
> > related processes in between.  Perhaps if scientists could recognize the
> > existence of an Astral body which is formed of pure field interference
> > patterns of magnetic energy in a higher order dimensional
> space, they would
> > have no trouble explaining these fundamental processes of life,
> as well as
> > evolution, and their linkages to the DNA code.
> >
> > Please don't take these observations as any denial of the validity of
> > esoteric numerology (which can be very useful as both
> confirmation of occult
> > principles as well as in the recognition of analogies and
> correspondences) --
> > but simply, as food for thought in self-determining its value in helping
> > better understand the fundamental principles and the derivative
> teachings of
> > theosophy along with its roots in esoteric occultism.
> >
> > LHM
> >
> > In a message dated 05/24/00 7:33:06 PM, kellogg@west.net writes:
> >
> > >> <SNIP>
> > >
> > >> As above, so below:
> > >
> > >As (above) so (below)
> > >
> > >As 01414 so 14242
> > >
> > >As  0 + 1 + 4 + 1 + 4 so 1 + 4 + 2 + 4 + 2
> > >
> > >As 10 so 13
> > >
> > >As 10 so 1 + 3
> > >
> > >As 10 so 4
> > >
> > >The difference is six.
> > >
> > >60 = 6 + 0 = 6
> > >
> > >Descent = 3 + 4 + 8 + 2 + 4 + 3 + 9
> > >
> > >Descent = 33 = 3 + 3 = 6
> > >
> > >Tetragrammaton = 9 + 4 + 9 + 7 + 0 + 6 + 7 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 9  + 4 + 3
> > >= 58 =
> > >5 + 8 = 13 = 1 + 3 = 4
> > >
> > >Tetraktis =  9 + 4 + 9 + 7 + 0 + 1 + 9 + 8 + 8 = 55 = 5 + 5 = 10, "The
> > >Sacred
> > >Pythagorean number Number."
> > >
> > ><SNIP>
> > >
> > >Spencer
> > >
> >
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