Theos-Talk Archives (May 2000 Message tt00309)

Truth = 9 + 7 + 0 + 9 + 7 = 32 = 3 + 2 = 5

Light = 2 + 8 + 6 + 7 + 9 = 32 = 3 + 2 = 5

Buddha = 1 + 0 + 3 + 3 + 7 + 0 = 1 + 4 = 5

Nature = 3 + 0 + 9 + 0 + 7 + 4 = 23 = 2 + 3 = 5

Be-ness = 1 + 4 + 3 + 4 + 8 + 8 = 28 = 2 + 8 = 10


Meaningful?  I don't know.  Meaningless?  Perhaps.  It's probably nothing.


Life = 2 + 8 + 5 + 4 = 19 = 1 + 9 = 10

Suffering = 8 + 0 + 5 + 5 + 4 + 7 + 8 + 3 + 6 = 46 = 4 + 6 = 10


Life is suffering.                 Gautama Buddha

Life = suffering.                  Mathematical translation of 'is'

Life = sufring   (fe)             Associative Property of Equality

Life = surfing   (fe)             Commutative Property of Equality

Life = surfing   (Fe)            Periodic Table symbol for Iron



Iron attaches to a magnet.  (Fe) bears a striking resemblance to the
mathematical constant, phi.
What does any of this mean, if anything?
Practice detachment.

Spencer












LeonMaurer@aol.com wrote:

> To set the record a bit straighter for those who read these numerological
> dialogues and who are not overly fascinated by apparently mystical numbers
> that  -- while in many cases reflective of occult processes -- are sometimes
> presented and taken totally out of context... Consider the following.
>
> Without showing the logical basis of such numbers and their cabalistic
> reductions -- with direct reference to and correlation with the nonlinear
> cyclic and spherical forces ("music of the spheres") from which they
> originate and reflect -- could be entirely superficial as well as meaningless
> and misleading to most serious students of occult or esoteric theosophy --
> especially, beginners.
>
> The "why" and "how" in these teachings and understandings are as equally
> important as the "what" and "wherefor."  The I Ching is a good example of
> this, since its  numbers and their relationships are simply a symbolic
> reflection of the esoteric teachings given out in its commentaries, and have
> no fundamental meaning in themselves -- except to serve as an symbolic
> mathematical or geometric tool linking the objective questioner indirectly
> with the subjectivity of the oracle -- whose metaphoric pronouncements, as
> translated by the ancient Chinese Taoist philosophers, still requires, for
> proper interpretation, a profound and intuitive knowledge of the spherical
> and multidimnsional "tai-chi" forms of primal energy fields and the nonlinear
> laws and relationships of their cycles and periodicities that require
> nonlinear forms of mathematical geometries -- yet to be fully understood or
> codified, except partially, perhaps, in the graphical interpretations of
> fractal and non-euclidian geometries used in the new sciences of chaos,
> "simplicity" and "complexity," as well as in some aspects of post modern
> quantum and sub-quantum physics such as Superstring and Membrane theories.
>
> Notice that HPB in the Secret Doctrine, always explained the occult
> derivations, relationships and significances whenever she made reference to
> cabalistic numbers.  The reason for this is that one of the main purposes of
> HPB's (and the Master's) exposure of esoteric theosophy was to help us
> simultaneously combine nonlinear and linear (abstract and objective,
> macrocosmic and microcosmic, as above so below, etc.) understandings, while
> closing the gap and opening the bridge between linear left brain and
> nonlinear right brain network-type thinking -- which, to thoroughly
> comprehend the esoteric teachings, must be merged together.  Her purpose (as
> well as that of the Masters) was to awaken the intuition and assist in
> training the linear and nonlinear linked graphical imagination of prospective
> chelas and possible future initiates... The opposite of whom would be the
> possibly brain washed blind believers in pseudo esoteric dogmas... As is
> observed among many members of organized religions and followers of some so
> called psychic cultists and other neo-theosophists or "new age" teachers --
> who would like to see a "new world order" based on hierarchical and linear
> numbers with the masses under easy control of their rulers (note the linear
> connotation of the word "rulers") while still maintaining a semblance of
> individual choice.
> The quickest way to accomplish such mind control would be to teach their
> members to either concentrate solely on the abstract level of pure
> spirituality as well as its associated rituals (which makes them
> non-resistors to their "controllers" or "gurus" mystical pronouncements), or
> focus on the concrete level of numbers, formulas, letters and words (which
> gives them an inclination to confine their thinking into an externally
> determined linear order that blindly follows their leader's ends).
> Unfortunately, this is highly prevalent, today, in many schools of so called
> esoteric teachings, some of which profess to be based on fundamental
> theosophy.
>
> It's good to remember, in light of the above, that the DNA linear numerical
> code, for example, cannot function unless it is linked to the actual
> multidimensional nonlinear Astral fields that organically empower the
> proteins and magnetically guides their elements into their 3-dimensional
> chemical forms and body positions.  Is this the reason that while science can
> superficially observe, count, and analyze the structure of the genes
> themselves, as well as understand the physical nature of the 4 chemical bases
> of amino acids that compose the genetic code, they can't entirely explain how
> such codes work to actually build and position the 3-dimensional protein
> molecules or biological organisms that the DNA-RNA (strings of code)
> partially serves to guide?  They see only what they believe to be the cause
> and the effect, but have little understanding of the actual coenergetic field
> related processes in between.  Perhaps if scientists could recognize the
> existence of an Astral body which is formed of pure field interference
> patterns of magnetic energy in a higher order dimensional space, they would
> have no trouble explaining these fundamental processes of life, as well as
> evolution, and their linkages to the DNA code.
>
> Please don't take these observations as any denial of the validity of
> esoteric numerology (which can be very useful as both confirmation of occult
> principles as well as in the recognition of analogies and correspondences) --
> but simply, as food for thought in self-determining its value in helping
> better understand the fundamental principles and the derivative teachings of
> theosophy along with its roots in esoteric occultism.
>
> LHM
>
> In a message dated 05/24/00 7:33:06 PM, kellogg@west.net writes:
>
> >> <SNIP>
> >
> >> As above, so below:
> >
> >As (above) so (below)
> >
> >As 01414 so 14242
> >
> >As  0 + 1 + 4 + 1 + 4 so 1 + 4 + 2 + 4 + 2
> >
> >As 10 so 13
> >
> >As 10 so 1 + 3
> >
> >As 10 so 4
> >
> >The difference is six.
> >
> >60 = 6 + 0 = 6
> >
> >Descent = 3 + 4 + 8 + 2 + 4 + 3 + 9
> >
> >Descent = 33 = 3 + 3 = 6
> >
> >Tetragrammaton = 9 + 4 + 9 + 7 + 0 + 6 + 7 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 9  + 4 + 3
> >= 58 =
> >5 + 8 = 13 = 1 + 3 = 4
> >
> >Tetraktis =  9 + 4 + 9 + 7 + 0 + 1 + 9 + 8 + 8 = 55 = 5 + 5 = 10, "The
> >Sacred
> >Pythagorean number Number."
> >
> ><SNIP>
> >
> >Spencer
> >
>
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