Theos-Talk Archives (May 2000 Message tt00204)

Thankyou Dallas.  This is key to understanding the illusion of appearances.
The world is a symbolic reflection of the Atmic-buddhic states of
consciousness in the physical-astral states of consciousness through the
unreflected scientific state of consciousness(unreflected)

Gene


-----Original Message-----
From: dalval2nwc.net <dalval@nwc.net>
To: theos-talk@theosophy.com <theos-talk@theosophy.com>
Date: Saturday, May 20, 2000 1:17 PM
Subject: RE: Theos-World Mathematics, Spinoza, Leibniz


>May 20th
>
>HPB in the SECRET DOCTRINE says:
>
>"There is no "chance" in Nature, wherein everything is
>mathematically co-ordinate and mutually related in its units.
> SD I 635 ]  See also SD I 97, 642, 638 (spiritual astrology),
>
>Mathematical statements preceded forms in both time and space.
>The "life-atoms" are the basics of Nature and every structure is
>implicit in their experience, as they are "immortal, and
>perpetual motion machines."
>
>The "memory" of every form they have ever participated in making
>remains permanently engraved in their "memory."  -- says
>Theosophy.
>
>
>
>D. T. B.
>
>=========================================
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-theos-talk@theosophy.com
>[mailto:owner-theos-talk@theosophy.com]On Behalf Of Eugene
>Carpenter
>Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2000 8:55 AM
>To: theos-talk@theosophy.com
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Mathematics, Spinoza, Leibniz
>
>Tobias Dantzig, beloved mathematician historian of Einstein,
>wrote that
>unlike the common belief that mathematics is metaphor for the
>physical
>world, the reverse is true. THE PHYSICAL WORLD IS METAPHOR FOR
>THE WORLD OF
>MATHEMATICS.  Sorry to shout, but it is an incredibly important
>statement if
>true.  I think Heisenberg would agree as would Whitehead.
>
>Gene
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bart Lidofsky <bartl@sprynet.com>
>To: theos-talk@theosophy.com <theos-talk@theosophy.com>
>Date: Friday, May 19, 2000 5:58 PM
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Mathematics, Spinoza, Leibniz
>
>
>>    Just a couple of comments on a couple of points in your
>letter:
>>
>>LeonMaurer@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> To consider numbers, per se, as having any relationship to
>spiritual
>wisdom
>>> or consciousness -- other than as a mathematical tool for the
>confirmation or
>>> measure of the effects of fundamental universal law, is purely
>speculative.
>>
>>    That's not as much of a problem as you might think; consider
>that
>numbers are
>>merely a way of looking at the universe; mathematics is an
>entirely
>artificial
>>discipline, which is what makes its laws fixed within any given
>mathematical
>>system (note that one cannot describe mathematics except in
>mathematical
>terms).
>>This does not mean that mathematics is not useful, though it can
>be argued
>that
>>mathematics belongs in the realm of philosophy rather than
>science.
>>
>>> True Science (with its understanding of both the metaphysical
>and the
>>> physical forces and forms based on "the Harmony of the
>Spheres" in
>*exact*
>>> conformance with the fundamental principles) and fundamental
>theosophical
>>> teachings (as presented by HPB and the Masters), are one and
>the same.
>>
>>    And scientists today are getting ever closer (albeit not
>close enough)
>to
>>"True Science", at least as you define it.
>>
>>    Bart
>>
>>
>>
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