Theos-Talk Archives (May 2000 Message tt00080)

Thankyou Spencer.

Eugene


-----Original Message-----
From: Spencer Kellogg <kellogg@west.net>
To: theos-talk@theosophy.com <theos-talk@theosophy.com>
Date: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World I hi-lighted the message with my browser, read it
and it's ominously obscure and not interesting to me.


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>Eugene Carpenter wrote:
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>> <SNIP>
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>>  The good stuff becomes clear and transcendally simple
>> after adequate study.
>>
>> Eugene
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>I couldn't agree more.
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> http://www.theosophy.org/HermesByDate.htm
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>
>Spencer
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>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Spencer Kellogg <kellogg@west.net>
>> To: theos-talk@theosophy.com <theos-talk@theosophy.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 7:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: Theos-World I hi-lighted the message with my browser, read
it
>> and it's ominously obscure and not interesting to me.
>>
>> >Thank you for the information.  Wasn't aware that my post was full
>> >of  ominousness and fear but will go back and double check.  And
>> >yes, Prof. Iyer was very bright indeed.  One might say that the
>> >difference
>> >between his brightness and others' was akin to the difference in
>> >brightness
>> >between the sun and moon.
>> >
>> >Spencer
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >"W. Dallas TenBroeck" wrote:
>> >
>> >> May 2 2000
>> >>
>> >> Dear Spencer
>> >>
>> >> I recognize the text that you ask about as originating from my
>> >> old friend Raghavan Iyer of my Bombay college days in the early
>> >> 1940s.  He was about 5 years younger than I, and a very bright
>> >> student. He had great charisma and drew a number of other bright
>> >> young minds to him and from there into the study of Theosophy at
>> >> the Bombay ULT.  We formed quite a bright group of young and
>> >> serious, interested students who wanted to find out what
>> >> THEOSOPHY had to teach.
>> >>
>> >> A few years later he went to Oxford as a Rhodes scholar and got
>> >> his degree and taught there for a number of years.  Later on he
>> >> got a teaching position in UC Sta. Barbara.  And again drew a
>> >> number of bright minds into the study of Theosophy.  A ULT Lodge
>> >> was started there, around 1971 or 2.
>> >>
>> >> In this particular quotation he is making reference to the
>> >> astrological/astronomical data that represent his own birth in
>> >> this particular incarnation.
>> >>
>> >> Personally I do not think that it has any special significance
>> >> for anyone but himself.  I have asked myself why he printed this,
>> >> and so far I have not found any useful answer.  So I do not pay
>> >> any attention to it.
>> >>
>> >> In any case as you well know, in Theosophy there is no such thing
>> >> as any claim to personal "authority."   THEOSOPHY is IMPERSONAL
>> >> and UNIVERSAL.  We are all privileged to be able to contact it
>> >> and study it,  and then pass it along without any alteration to
>> >> those who will follow us.
>> >>
>> >> I fail to see anything important or ominous in this, and if it is
>> >> implied, then it is veiled and mysterious. But, you will have
>> >> noticed the Original Teachings are very clear, and neither
>> >> "veiled," nor "ominous."  Ask yourself, with the knowledge of
>> >> Theosophy so far acquired, have you anything to fear ?  If so,
>> >> what is it, and why.  Can you let me know ?
>> >>
>> >> Best wishes,
>> >>
>> >> Dallas
>> >>
>> >> D T B
>> >>
>> >> ========================================
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: owner-theos-talk@theosophy.com
>> >> [mailto:owner-theos-talk@theosophy.com]On Behalf Of Spencer
>> >> Kellogg
>> >> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 3:50 PM
>> >> To: theos-talk@theosophy.com
>> >> Subject: Re: Theos-World I hi-lighted the message with my
>> >> browser, read
>> >> it and it's ominusly obscure and not interesting to me.
>> >>
>> >> >> One wonders whether or not this curious paragraph points to a
>> >> date.  "...in
>> >> >> a marriage by mutual assent," reminds one of that sentence
>> >> from
>> >> >> Theosophical literature having to do with our taking one step
>> >> in the
>> >> >> adepts' direction with them most assuredly taking one or more
>> >> steps in
>> >> >> ours.  One thinks of a hologram where a laser beam is split
>> >> and the
>> >> >> resulting 'two' beams are then redirected so that their
>> >> interference
>> >> >> pattern eventually 'creates' and image.  And what of, "the
>> >> worthless husks
>> >> >> of feverish speculation..."  Isn't that what's been happening
>> >> on this site
>> >> >> for the past month or so, all the bickering over senseless he
>> >> said/she said
>> >> >> nonsense?  Of course, if one were to make the calculations,
>> >> including leap
>> >> >> years where appropriate...?  Pay more attention to the nothing
>> >> in the last
>> >> >> sentence.  For if e = mc^2, and nothing is the matter, we get
>> >> the
>> >> >> experience of c^2 as spoken of in the Secret Doctrine at the
>> >> bottom of pg.
>> >> >> 510 of Cosmogenesis.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> DTB     did you look at SD I 510 & FOOTNOTE ?
>> >>
>> >>         It deals with the nature of Matter.
>> >>
>> >> On SD I 632 HPB says a great deal about the real constitution of
>> >> "matter" where at the top of the page she discusses the nature of
>> >> the MONAD and the part that it plays everywhere in evolution.
>> >> Tyndall made this "ominous confession:  " SCIENCE KNOWS NOTHING
>> >> (and still knows nothing today 2000) OF THE NATURE OF MATTER."
>> >>
>> >> But Theosophy does.
>> >>
>> >> Best wishes,
>> >>
>> >> Dallas
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Spencer
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>     I would be most interested in whether anyone
>> >> >>     who sees this can interpret the passage below.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>     Thank you.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>           Retrospective insight into the 1875 Cycle and
>> >> intuitive readiness
>> >> >>
>> >> >> for 1975 are indissolubly wedded, with no danger of divorce in
>> >> a marriage
>> >> >> by
>> >> >> mutual assent. The Wheel of the Good Law moves swiftly on, and
>> >> those who
>> >> >> are
>> >> >> willing to drive out the worthless husks of feverish
>> >> speculation, psychic
>> >> >> excitement and unholy curiosity must seek the golden grain of
>> >> >> self-validating truth in the mathematically precise marking of
>> >> 'the
>> >> >> celestial dial' on the Solar Clock. 14 x 7 years and 7 months
>> >> after the
>> >> >> birth of 'H.P.B.,' as well as 3 x 9 years and 9 months after
>> >> the Aquarian
>> >> >> Age commenced, when the disc of the Sun crossed the galactic
>> >> equator and
>> >> >> entered the constellation of Punarvarsu (Pollux), an event
>> >> took place on
>> >> >> earth, under the aegis of the asterism Punarvarsu, containing
>> >> the key to
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> 1975 Cycle. This says everything and nothing, in the
>> >> time-honoured code
>> >> >> language of the Wise Men of the East.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -- THEOSOPHY WORLD -- Theosophical Talk --
>> >> theos-talk@theosophy.com
>> >> >>
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>> >> >> would be most interested in whether anyone
>> >> >
>> >> >     who sees this can interpret the passage below.
>> >> >
>> >> >     Thank you.
>> >> >
>> >> >           Retrospective insight into the 1875 Cycle and
>> >> intuitive readiness
>> >> > for 1975 are indissolubly wedded, with no danger of divorce in
>> >> a marriage by
>> >> > mutual assent. The Wheel of the Good Law moves swiftly on, and
>> >> those who are
>> >> > willing to drive out the worthless husks of feverish
>> >> speculation, psychic
>> >> > excitement and unholy curiosity must seek the golden grain of
>> >> > self-validating truth in the mathematically precise marking of
>> >> 'the
>> >> > celestial dial' on the Solar Clock. 14 x 7 years and 7 months
>> >> after the
>> >> > birth of 'H.P.B.,' as well as 3 x 9 years and 9 months after
>> >> the Aquarian
>> >> > Age commenced, when the disc of the Sun crossed the galactic
>> >> equator and
>> >> > entered the constellation of Punarvarsu (Pollux), an event took
>> >> place on
>> >> > earth, under the aegis of the asterism Punarvarsu, containing
>> >> the key to the
>> >> > 1975 Cycle. This says everything and nothing, in the
>> >> time-honoured code
>> >> > language of the Wise Men of the East.
>> >> >
>> >> > -- THEOSOPHY WORLD -- Theosophical Talk --
>> >> theos-talk@theosophy.com
>> >> >
>> >> > Letters to the Editor, and discussion of theosophical ideas and
>> >> > teachings. To subscribe or unsubscribe, send a message
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>> >>
>> >> -- THEOSOPHY WORLD -- Theosophical Talk -- theos-talk@theosophy.com
>> >>
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>>
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>>
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