Theos-Talk Archives (May 2000 Message tt00018)

Eugene Carpenter wrote:

> <SNIP>

>  The good stuff becomes clear and transcendally simple
> after adequate study.
>
> Eugene

I couldn't agree more.

 http://www.theosophy.org/HermesByDate.htm


Spencer

>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Spencer Kellogg <kellogg@west.net>
> To: theos-talk@theosophy.com <theos-talk@theosophy.com>
> Date: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 7:19 AM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World I hi-lighted the message with my browser, read it
> and it's ominously obscure and not interesting to me.
>
> >Thank you for the information.  Wasn't aware that my post was full
> >of  ominousness and fear but will go back and double check.  And
> >yes, Prof. Iyer was very bright indeed.  One might say that the
> >difference
> >between his brightness and others' was akin to the difference in
> >brightness
> >between the sun and moon.
> >
> >Spencer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"W. Dallas TenBroeck" wrote:
> >
> >> May 2 2000
> >>
> >> Dear Spencer
> >>
> >> I recognize the text that you ask about as originating from my
> >> old friend Raghavan Iyer of my Bombay college days in the early
> >> 1940s.  He was about 5 years younger than I, and a very bright
> >> student. He had great charisma and drew a number of other bright
> >> young minds to him and from there into the study of Theosophy at
> >> the Bombay ULT.  We formed quite a bright group of young and
> >> serious, interested students who wanted to find out what
> >> THEOSOPHY had to teach.
> >>
> >> A few years later he went to Oxford as a Rhodes scholar and got
> >> his degree and taught there for a number of years.  Later on he
> >> got a teaching position in UC Sta. Barbara.  And again drew a
> >> number of bright minds into the study of Theosophy.  A ULT Lodge
> >> was started there, around 1971 or 2.
> >>
> >> In this particular quotation he is making reference to the
> >> astrological/astronomical data that represent his own birth in
> >> this particular incarnation.
> >>
> >> Personally I do not think that it has any special significance
> >> for anyone but himself.  I have asked myself why he printed this,
> >> and so far I have not found any useful answer.  So I do not pay
> >> any attention to it.
> >>
> >> In any case as you well know, in Theosophy there is no such thing
> >> as any claim to personal "authority."   THEOSOPHY is IMPERSONAL
> >> and UNIVERSAL.  We are all privileged to be able to contact it
> >> and study it,  and then pass it along without any alteration to
> >> those who will follow us.
> >>
> >> I fail to see anything important or ominous in this, and if it is
> >> implied, then it is veiled and mysterious. But, you will have
> >> noticed the Original Teachings are very clear, and neither
> >> "veiled," nor "ominous."  Ask yourself, with the knowledge of
> >> Theosophy so far acquired, have you anything to fear ?  If so,
> >> what is it, and why.  Can you let me know ?
> >>
> >> Best wishes,
> >>
> >> Dallas
> >>
> >> D T B
> >>
> >> ========================================
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-theos-talk@theosophy.com
> >> [mailto:owner-theos-talk@theosophy.com]On Behalf Of Spencer
> >> Kellogg
> >> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 3:50 PM
> >> To: theos-talk@theosophy.com
> >> Subject: Re: Theos-World I hi-lighted the message with my
> >> browser, read
> >> it and it's ominusly obscure and not interesting to me.
> >>
> >> >> One wonders whether or not this curious paragraph points to a
> >> date.  "...in
> >> >> a marriage by mutual assent," reminds one of that sentence
> >> from
> >> >> Theosophical literature having to do with our taking one step
> >> in the
> >> >> adepts' direction with them most assuredly taking one or more
> >> steps in
> >> >> ours.  One thinks of a hologram where a laser beam is split
> >> and the
> >> >> resulting 'two' beams are then redirected so that their
> >> interference
> >> >> pattern eventually 'creates' and image.  And what of, "the
> >> worthless husks
> >> >> of feverish speculation..."  Isn't that what's been happening
> >> on this site
> >> >> for the past month or so, all the bickering over senseless he
> >> said/she said
> >> >> nonsense?  Of course, if one were to make the calculations,
> >> including leap
> >> >> years where appropriate...?  Pay more attention to the nothing
> >> in the last
> >> >> sentence.  For if e = mc^2, and nothing is the matter, we get
> >> the
> >> >> experience of c^2 as spoken of in the Secret Doctrine at the
> >> bottom of pg.
> >> >> 510 of Cosmogenesis.
> >> >
> >>
> >> DTB     did you look at SD I 510 & FOOTNOTE ?
> >>
> >>         It deals with the nature of Matter.
> >>
> >> On SD I 632 HPB says a great deal about the real constitution of
> >> "matter" where at the top of the page she discusses the nature of
> >> the MONAD and the part that it plays everywhere in evolution.
> >> Tyndall made this "ominous confession:  " SCIENCE KNOWS NOTHING
> >> (and still knows nothing today 2000) OF THE NATURE OF MATTER."
> >>
> >> But Theosophy does.
> >>
> >> Best wishes,
> >>
> >> Dallas
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Spencer
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>     I would be most interested in whether anyone
> >> >>     who sees this can interpret the passage below.
> >> >>
> >> >>     Thank you.
> >> >>
> >> >>           Retrospective insight into the 1875 Cycle and
> >> intuitive readiness
> >> >>
> >> >> for 1975 are indissolubly wedded, with no danger of divorce in
> >> a marriage
> >> >> by
> >> >> mutual assent. The Wheel of the Good Law moves swiftly on, and
> >> those who
> >> >> are
> >> >> willing to drive out the worthless husks of feverish
> >> speculation, psychic
> >> >> excitement and unholy curiosity must seek the golden grain of
> >> >> self-validating truth in the mathematically precise marking of
> >> 'the
> >> >> celestial dial' on the Solar Clock. 14 x 7 years and 7 months
> >> after the
> >> >> birth of 'H.P.B.,' as well as 3 x 9 years and 9 months after
> >> the Aquarian
> >> >> Age commenced, when the disc of the Sun crossed the galactic
> >> equator and
> >> >> entered the constellation of Punarvarsu (Pollux), an event
> >> took place on
> >> >> earth, under the aegis of the asterism Punarvarsu, containing
> >> the key to
> >> >> the
> >> >> 1975 Cycle. This says everything and nothing, in the
> >> time-honoured code
> >> >> language of the Wise Men of the East.
> >> >>
> >> >> -- THEOSOPHY WORLD -- Theosophical Talk --
> >> theos-talk@theosophy.com
> >> >>
> >> >> Letters to the Editor, and discussion of theosophical ideas
> >> and
> >> >> teachings. To subscribe or unsubscribe, send a message
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> >> >> "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" to
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> >> >> would be most interested in whether anyone
> >> >
> >> >     who sees this can interpret the passage below.
> >> >
> >> >     Thank you.
> >> >
> >> >           Retrospective insight into the 1875 Cycle and
> >> intuitive readiness
> >> > for 1975 are indissolubly wedded, with no danger of divorce in
> >> a marriage by
> >> > mutual assent. The Wheel of the Good Law moves swiftly on, and
> >> those who are
> >> > willing to drive out the worthless husks of feverish
> >> speculation, psychic
> >> > excitement and unholy curiosity must seek the golden grain of
> >> > self-validating truth in the mathematically precise marking of
> >> 'the
> >> > celestial dial' on the Solar Clock. 14 x 7 years and 7 months
> >> after the
> >> > birth of 'H.P.B.,' as well as 3 x 9 years and 9 months after
> >> the Aquarian
> >> > Age commenced, when the disc of the Sun crossed the galactic
> >> equator and
> >> > entered the constellation of Punarvarsu (Pollux), an event took
> >> place on
> >> > earth, under the aegis of the asterism Punarvarsu, containing
> >> the key to the
> >> > 1975 Cycle. This says everything and nothing, in the
> >> time-honoured code
> >> > language of the Wise Men of the East.
> >> >
> >> > -- THEOSOPHY WORLD -- Theosophical Talk --
> >> theos-talk@theosophy.com
> >> >
> >> > Letters to the Editor, and discussion of theosophical ideas and
> >> > teachings. To subscribe or unsubscribe, send a message
> >> consisting of
> >> > "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" to
> >> theos-talk-request@theosophy.com.
> >>
> >> -- THEOSOPHY WORLD -- Theosophical Talk -- theos-talk@theosophy.com
> >>
> >> Letters to the Editor, and discussion of theosophical ideas and
> >> teachings. To subscribe or unsubscribe, send a message consisting of
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> >
>
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>
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