Theos-Talk Archives (October 1999 Message tt00041)

Excellent points, but how many of us would get that
far? Even with all the literature, very few even
realize they are sentient in the real world, maybe 1
in a million would figure it out on their own.

Then, thinking about all the tribal ritual and belief
focused of food, the hunt, natural elements, I would
think self evident truths would tend toward animism in
the island scenario.

No, self evident truths are a paradox.  Evident truths
maybe, but with no real building blocks, very few (if
any) could put it together.  Hell very few, if any put
it together now.



--- Martin Leiderman <martinle@lainet.com> wrote:
> Hi Randy,
> I like the subject since I entertained that sometime
> ago, and this is what came
> out of it.
> 
> 1- I will be aware that I have consciousness. (I
> know there are many ways  to
> say it clearer)
> 2- Duality is perceived, as me and 'else'.
> 3- If I don't have any mystical experiences of
> totality, oneness, of Yoga, I
> will stay in this duality mode of consciousness
> forever, and explanations about
> Cosmos and consciousness will be of a materialistic,
> animistic, magical,
> nature, but I will not approach the Monistic
> philosophical view.
> 
> 4- If I have any true mystical experiences, I will
> experience Oneness.
> 
> 5- And from that Oneness, Wholeness, or Beness, I
> probably will come up with
> visions and explanations  about the origin of the
> Cosmos and of the
> Consciousness, essentially similar to any ancient
> religion, philosophy, etc.
> 
> 
> Hope to spark a dialogue.
> 
> Martin Leiderman
> 
> WLR7D@aol.com wrote:
> 
> > I would like to discuss with interested parties
> self-evident truths.  If you
> > were alone on an isolated island, what could  you
> come up with in terms of
> > your origin, purpose and destiny.  What I'm
> looking for is to assemble
> > self-evident truths that could be apparent to any
> thinking person and not
> > parroted constructs from"holy books" or 
> sages...unless these are revealing
> > such self-evident truths.
> > My feeling is that this is the starting point for
> any grounded cosmogony or
> > life philosophy.  Let me know if you are
> interested.  I can send you the
> > ideas I have thus far assembled.
> > Thanks, Randy
> >
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