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Re: Theos-World things seem hopeless

Jul 20, 1999 03:45 PM
by clint mccray



--- Mark Kusek <mark@withoutwalls.com> wrote:
> 
>
> 
> The moral choice for good or evil actions is a
> consequence of the
> evolution of individual personality or lower self
> ego consciousness. In
> order to have a sense of (personal) "self and other"
> we need a field of
> opposites to manifest that in. Good and evil are
> just one set of relative
> polarities that define the field. It is said by the
> wisdom tradition that
> there can be no wrong action but in the astral body.

> Please explain this statement on astral wrong.

Compound that with a
> personal ego that knows only the lesser self
> embroiled in Kama (which is
> most everyone) and the potential for ego
> aggrandizement leading toward
> immoral actions appears. 

I agree on this.

Evil (in all it's subtle
> grades) is also defined
> differently from culture to culture and time to
> time, as are mores and
> morality, although there are probably general
> agreements about archetypal
> forms. I would go so far to say that where you find
> evil in the world
> there is also going to be an inflated personal ego.
> To me they go hand in
> hand.
> 
> From a Buddhist perspective, you could probably say
> that evil is a result
> of the ignorance of true nature.
> 
> From a biological perspective it is the conflict of
> impulse systems that
> are required to function as complex organisms.
> 
> But the big idea is that duality is necessary for
> the formation of a sense
> of self and other. Good and evil are a consequential
> pair of that
> necessity. It is a part of the plan, so to speak.
> Archetypal maya, but
> apparently real for the unawake. Malice began with
> duality.
> 
So, what you are saying is that evil is a necessary option and came to
be thus when all other options were made?
Would you say apathy is one grade of evil?
> 
> 
> Wisdom and compassion are the skillful forces
> watching out for the
> mislead.
> 
>Are these actual beings, or the state that each individual can choose,
or both? 

> 
> 
> Everything they have done and continue to do.
> But the required element for effective change in the
> world is up to us.
> You, me ( and all of us) in our efforts to cooperate
> with them as we can
> make the difference.
>> The best effort one can offer is the active
> sacrifice of the lesser self
> to the ideal of refuge in brotherhood , the truth
> about the nature of
> reality and the wisdom and compassion of those who
> have attained.
> 
> Some may be called to be demon fighters, some may be
> called to do other
> things. Unity in hierarchy. Independent action
> vis-a-vis hierarchy. Depth
> experience for the individual.
> 
> Gate, gate, paragate, parasamgate, bodhi Svaha!
> 
> Regards,
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
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