Re: Re: Theos-World Who to blame?
May 06, 1999 11:53 AM
In a message dated 5/6/99 11:29:08 AM, Rich wrote:
<<<<But I am under no illusion that even if we were to take up every
bit of money, power and knowledge and magically distribute them absolutely
equitably to everyone, within 20 years we would again have serious imbalances
worldwide. People would offer to others their goods in exchange for various
services, or squander their wealth, or misuse it through addiction or
<I'm sorry that you found my comments unappealing...>
Thanks for the concern. But fortunately, this list doesn't exist in oder to
make me happy.
<If you included information about human spirituality
and genuine opportunity in that distribution, and it would take at least 20
years, perhaps longer, to begin to impact a generation, why wouldn't it begin
to resolve more of human suffering then our current attempts do? >
But information on human spirituality has already been available for tens of
thousands of years. Every culture has its shamans, priests, healers; every
culture has a body of myths and legends and fairy tales emphasizing altruism
and wisdom-seeking. While we could certainly do a better job reaching the
masses, I think the problem is again not in simple distribution but in fact
in the human "heart" or better, personal nature, which has taken millions of
years to evolve to this point.
Louis further wrote,
some of the things mentioned in your last sentence also begin to get better
with a proper distribution of empathetic sensitivity. Unless of course you
suspect a germ of evil in the human heart and soul that cannot be reversed or
eradicated. Is that possible?>>
Of course I don't believe that it cannot be reversed or eradicated ! I don't
see how such pessimism could find much lodging in Theosophical circles. But
while Jerry is wise to hold out the possibility of enlightenment HERE and
NOW, the fact is exactly what our Masters recognize: waking up for most
people is a *very* long and *very* slow and *very* painful process. Most
people want to avoid it at all costs when it becomes clear what must be lost
in order to gain the SELF.
So even if we imagine 6.1 billion care packages going out to every man, woman
and child on the planet, with exactly the same amount of food, money,
clothing, and books and pamphlets on human knowledge including Theosophical
principles -- I propose that most people would not benefit much at all.
Illiteracy, harsh environments, abuse from family and neighbors, overbearing
governments, opposition from religious or other special interest groups --
all would conspire to keep people in their places.
Let's even further imagine that we could magically make everyone literate
(which most of the world is not) and magically disposed to be interested in
reading and studying, and magically free of time constraints so that everyone
had the time to learn and meditate (see how fantastic this is getting??).
Let's assume we had to cooperation of every church and government and
money-making corporation. (Ha) Even so, the internal nature of most of our
beloved human beings would rebel at such a radical change in disposition as
In the final analysis, Theosophy asks one to drop all ego, all sense of
separateness, all greed and envy and lust, and live for and as all other
beings. For the vast majority of people, including me and most of us on this
list, it's an impossible task for the present, and even for the next 20 years
or even the next 20 lives.
It should be becoming clearer now that mere distribution of knowledge and
goods will not alter personal constitutions which have taken millions of
years to form and crystallize. People have set up an immense amoung of
suffering for themselves, and there is little you or I or the greatest Master
can do about it. It is KARMA.
Given all this, we must recognize that human inequalities and human suffering
are here to stay. As Jesus is reported to have stated, "The poor will always
be with you." I am *not* saying we should celebrate inequality and
suffering, or further it. But it is karmic, and natural, for humans to be
unequal in beauty, charm, intelligence, money, ability, talents, attitude,
care for others, virtue, wisdom, etc. Rather than seek to undo material and
intellectual inequalities, I propose that we should be working to ignore
them, as if they didn't matter, and try to help people see the light whatever
their station in life.
<<Once again Rich, I think we really are saying the same thing here. We are
just saying it differently.>>
Perhaps, but I'm sure not convinced. I don't think we should be trying to
level the playing field, BECAUSE KARMA IS ALREADY DOING THAT by
redistributing the wealth etc. The people who are wealthy or poor now are
exactly where they ought to be. We have no right to change that, and we know
that all will change soon anyway. All we have a right to is our own
resources and abilities, and I find it quite dangerous to tell others what
they ought to be doing with theirs.
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