Re: Theos-World Who to blame?
May 06, 1999 04:13 AM
In a message dated 5/5/99 5:01:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Richtay@aol.com
<< Funny, I would expect to find this kind of statement on "Marxism.com" and
on a Theosophical discussion. It is interestly that in Louis' long diatribe
there is not one reference to KARMA. Why it is that individuals suffer?
What kind of external forces shall we blame?
I'm sorry that you found my comments unappealing. I always try to be clear
and to the point, as you are so often. One thing for sure, I did not intend
for that post to have any political stamp on it, Marxist or otherwise. My
only concern here was to address the "link" between what we think and feel,
on the inner planes and what gets manifested on the physical plane. That is
not a matter of Marxist commentary but rather, pure esoteric philosophy. For
me, KARMA, is a given. It is the operative presumption in everything I say
and think about. That said, I am afraid that I do forget to mention it
sometime because I assume that everyone knows, that's what I am talking
about. Sorry, my mistake.
<<But I am under no illusion that even if we were to take up every
bit of money, power and knowledge and magically distribute them absolutely
equitably to everyone, within 20 years we would again have serious imbalances
worldwide. People would offer to others their goods in exchange for various
services, or squander their wealth, or misuse it through addiction or
Why would that be Rich? If you included information about human spirituality
and genuine opportunity in that distribution, and it would take at least 20
years, perhaps longer, to begin to impact a generation, why wouldn't it begin
to resolve more of human suffering then our current attempts do? Wouldn't
some of the things mentioned in your last sentence also begin to get better
with a proper distribution of empathetic sensitivity. Unless of course your
suspect a germ of evil in the human heat and soul that cannot be reversed or
eradicated. Is that possible?
<< And this disease is nothing other than the Buddhist group of three
miseries: greed, hatred, and ignorance. And there is no other cure than
spiritual self-culture and the sharing of THAT wealth.>>
Agreed. This is exactly what I thought I was conveying when I said, the
problem is one of human greed, selfishness and misdirected will on the inner
planes. It is NOT one of too many people.
<<Try as we might, there is NO ONE to blame for our ills other than
We must not be lazy and fall back on old yarns like "society" or "prejudice"
or even "my parents." They are merely instruments of our karma.>>
Whose causes lie where, If not in our failure to embody the spiritual ideals
and virtues? Again I thought I was making this point.
<<If hunger and poverty and illness were so easily solved as a redistribution
of the wealth, wouldn't the Masters last century have cited Karl Marx at
Don't think so. After laying down the tenents of Spiritual Idealism and
Virtuous living (I do not mean restrictive virtues, rather, what it is right
to do.) Why would they have to? If you mastered the one, you mastered the
other by definition.
Once again Rich, I think we really are saying the same thing here. We are
just saying it differently.
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