Theos-Talk Archives (March 1999 Message tt00309)

Dear Jerry,

you write:
>  I feel it important just to discuss these
>  important subjects. Liberation is an option that is available to
>  anyone, but not if we are ignorant of it.

Yes, of course it is important to discuss these subjects.  What do you think
Dallas, myself and others been trying to do just recently if not that?

But let us discuss and weigh our different views on their merit, and not on
the basis of negative attitudes that you ascribe to those who disagree with
you.  According to you: to disagree with your view of psychology is 'to hate
it'.  To differ with your view of karma and reincarnation is to have a 'self
defeating attitude'.  To question your view of 'single-lifetime
enlightenment' is to 'feel unworthy'.  To suggest that HPB does not support
your view, is 'to fear liberation' -  and on, and on.

As this is a Theosophy group I presume we discuss the views expressed here
in relation to the Teachings of Theosophy.  In this light:

-  what is the basis for your view that people are reborn just because they
think they will be?
-  what support can you offer for your belief that this might be our
'seventh life' but we just don't know it?
-  how do you reconcile experimenting with psychism with disolving all our
Karma and achieving Liberation in this one lifetime?

Can you substantiate those views without attributing negative attitudes to
those who might disagree?

I would welcome that.

Peter



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-theos-talk@pippin.imagiware.com
[mailto:owner-theos-talk@pippin.imagiware.com]On Behalf Of Jerry Schueler
Sent: 19 March 1999 16:37
To: Theos World
Subject: Theos-World Some Responses and Defenses


>>Come now, Jerry, this repeated attribution of negative attitudes to other
theosophists in this group adds nothing to the validity to your arguments,
nor does it lessen the validity of views different to your own. <<

First of all, I am not trying to win converts. Secondly, I do not mean
to imply that my views are valid while those of others are invalid. The
fear of psychism and liberation, and the feeling of unworthiness
because it is such a terribly hard Path that takes seven lifetimes
and so on is a valid point of view for those who are indeed not
ready to get into such things. The TSs fear publishing such things
because they know damn well that someone out there will get hurt
by it. I understand this. I just think that sometimes they go a little
overboard. To err on the side of caution is not necessarily the
way to go with occult matters. I feel it important just to discuss these
important subjects. Liberation is an option that is available to
anyone, but not if we are ignorant of it.

Jerry S.


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