Theos-Talk Archives (March 1999 Message tt00128)

Mar 14th        IT IS AGAIN NOT TRANSMITTING YOUR MESSAGE AT ALL

 

Dal  I can read it ---- but not PRINT it out.  WHAT GIVES ?  Strange.

 

              Dallas TenBroeck
              dalval@nwc,net

 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-theos-talk@pippin.imagiware.com [mailto:owner-theos-talk@pippin.imagiware.com]On Behalf Of M K Ramadoss
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 1999 8:04 AM
To: theos-talk@theosophy.com
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Hassle on History

At 07:12 AM 3/14/1999 EST, Louis wrote:
>In a 
message dated 3/14/99 4:40:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
Richtay@aol.com
>writes:
>
><< I think the E.S. was a 
last-ditch attempt at true unity and
> brotherhood, which the 
"outer" T.S. so sorely lacked. >>
>
>And still does, 
I would add. So which is it, that that may not be a natural
>part of the 
human condition yet? True esoteric awareness or Human 
unity?
>
><<By their seven-fold pledge, the
>E.S. 
members committed themselves to being vessels of brotherhood and 
working
>centers of unity. They were meant to be models for the 
non-esoteric students
>to follow.>>
>
>It could have 
been a seven times seven-fold pledge and still would have meant
>nothing. 
Unless and until, enough of each members personality-identity, has
>been 
transformed into its essential spiritual nature, no amount of lip 
service
>works. The interesting point to ponder for me is, HPB knew this, 
Judge Knew
>this and I think Besant knew this. So what IS the value of 
pledge making and
>taking by personalities that do not have the Spiritual 
force yet developed, to
>actualize them?
>
><< Failing a 
real unified
>center, Masters had and have no choice but to work through 
individuals, as
>they did through HPB.>> 
>
>So, here we 
are some hundred odd years later, and we are discussing topics
>like, why 
are the TS's falling apart, single nominee presidential elections,
>etc. I 
ask again, is it the work of HPB and the Masters that did not produce
>the 
hoped for results? Or, is it perhaps, that Human Unity is not 
an
>attainable goal on the Physical plane?

It was very clear from the early 
writings that the Brothers wanted a true Universal Brotherhood to be established 
wanted to have an impact on the well being of the Humanity. They did not make 
much of the occult instructions; chelaship, adeptship, working towards being 
in the 6th root race, etc. And the Founders 
made the best of the available material -- people who are serious and were 
dedicated to the Cause.

Now may be an opportunity to bypass all the 
organizations and the politics and get a real world wide nucleus of dedicated 
people involved in the next millenium using "unmoderated" Internet as 
the tool. In the Internet medium, all money and property issues are also 
avoided. All being treated as equal human beings, which cannot happen in any 
organization.

Again per recent surveys, it is the affluent, educated 
younger generation which is using Internet generally and this group may be able 
to accomplish the task. In the Maha-Chohan 
letter which is considered by every theosophist from HPB onwards as the charter 
for the TS, it is clearly stated how the "elitist" group is impacting 
on the rest.

The future impact of Internet has not yet been clearly 
understood by the present leaders as seen by their absence in the medium. Only 
time can tell where we will be in 10 years.

....mkr 





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