Theos-Talk Archives (January 1999 Message tt00377)

On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:44:40 -0000, you wrote:

>Dear Bee,
>
>You may have found this already but there is a very interesting section
in
>the Secret Doctrine p572 -574 which is worth relecting on, from which
comes:
>
>"The star under which a human Entity is born, says the Occult teaching,
will
>remain for ever its star, throughout the whole cycle of its incarnations in
>one Manvantara. But this is not his astrological star. The latter is
>concerned and connected with the personality, the former with the
>INDIVIDUALITY. The "Angel" of that Star, or the Dhyani-Buddha will be
either
>the guiding or simply the presiding "Angel," so to say, in every new
rebirth
>of the monad, which is part of his own essence, though his vehicle, man, may
>remain for ever ignorant of this fact. The adepts have each their
>Dhyani-Buddha, their elder "twin Soul," and they know it, calling it
>"Father-Soul," and "Father-Fire." It is only at the last and supreme
>initiation, however, that they learn it when placed face to face with
the
>bright "Image." How much has Bulwer Lytton known of this mystic fact
when
>describing, in one of his highest inspirational moods, Zanoni face to
face
>with his Augoeides?"
Thanks for the above quote. I had not read that and I had not realised
the idea of a guiding 'star'. I am sort aware that the astrology we
accept in the ordinary sense, is not the full story by any means.

I can't remember exactly what G de Purucker said but he had some
interesting things to say on this matter and I remember being
fascinated but could not fully understand what he meant and got the
impression that it was deeper than I could follow. He mentioned that
the Ego after death travelled to devachan or its equivalent, via the
planets of the Ego's astrological qualities and took on a vehicle
there for a short time and the same on the way back to incarnation.

This seemed to me to indicate that some residue of those influences
may come with the incarnating Ego and have an effect in that
incarnation and so make sense of the astrological charts etc that the
birth constellation holds.

Just some speculations of mine :-)
>
>I have read the book you mentioned but didn't quite make it to the end.
 I
>was wondering about what you said is written there about the
constellation
>we die under being the constellation we are born under next time around.  It
>may be that as far as the personality is concerned there is *some* truth in
>your book.  For I imagine that when the body dies some Karmic record /
>impression of the 'occult constitution' of the personality is retained
so
>that the reincarnating ego is born into the appropriate body and mental
>characteristics comensurate with the state of the lower constitution at
the
>end of the previous incarnation.  So it might make sense if the
astrological
>influences were similar even if not completely identical.  What do you
>reckon?

Funny thing but I have sort of lost interest in the book since the
possibility of that information being suspect has been mooted.

I enjoyed up to then but it seemed to get a bit carried away after
that. I now wonder if it is a work of fiction which uses these ideas
to write a story. If that is the case then it might be better read
like that.


What we make of ourselves in a spiritual way in each incarnation, I
understand will stay part of our reincarnating Ego once it has been
digest, so to speak. But I find the idea of taking on some of the
influences of our individual planetary influences, as we come and go,
to maybe affect our astrological aspects more understandable, at this
stage of my understanding anyway :-)
My understanding keep changing as I learn more so I may see things
differently later on.
Many thanks for your post here, it has been most helpful.
cheers
Bee
>Best wishes,
>
>Peter
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