Theos-Talk Archives (December 1998 Message tt00177)

[Dan:]
>My limited understanding of the subject is that "karmamudra" is
>practised literally by some Gelukpa lamas.  And it is my further
>understanding that the current Dalai Lama believes that Tsonkhapa and
>earlier Dalai Lamas taught the actual use of a female consort in certain
>Tantric sexual rituals.  I am unclear about "jnanamudra" as defined by
>Nicholas
>

You are right. I quoted Tsongkhapa a few days ago talking about
the karmamudra, although his biographers say that he never
practiced it. I don't believe HH the Dali Lama has ever practiced
it either.


>If my understanding is based on correct information, then I ask Leon,
>what is truly the difference (if any) between the Gelukpas and the
>non-Gelukpa sects of Tibetan Buddhism??  The answer to this question has
>a direct bearing on much of what HPB, M and KH write on this subject.
>


I have already provided you with some quotes to the effect that
the Tilopa-Naropa-Marpa-Milarepa-Gampopa lineage does NOT
practice it.

Jerry S.