Theos-Talk Archives (November 1998 Message tt00508)

Nov 28th 1998

Dallas adds his 2 C:

> From: Jerry Schueler
> Sent:	Saturday, November 28, 1998 9:15 AM
> Subject: Re:

Theosophy Embraces Nothing....It simply Picks out those
things......?????

>But once they are culled or picked are they then in effect dead
on the
>physical plane?

Not dead. just exoteric.


DALLAS
EXCUSE ME, THEOSOPHY CLAIMS TO BE THE PRIMORDIAL, ESSENTIAL AND
ORIGINAL SOURCE FOR THE INFORMATION AND DATA (HISTORICAL)
CONCERNING THE LAWS AND EVENTS OF OUR AND UNIVERSAL EVOLUTION.

THEREFORE IT DOES NOT PICK AND CHOOSE AT ALL.

IF YOU CAN FIND ANYTHING THAT THEOSOPHY IS DEFICIENT ON, THEN YOU
MIGHT CONSIDER IT A COLLAGE OR A PASTICHE - A MOSAIC - OF IDEAS
AND FACTS THROWN TOGETHER AND DERIVED FROM VARIOUS COMMON AND
CURRENT SOURCES.

A READING OF ISIS UNVEILED AND THE S D REVEALS THAT IT IS NOTHING
OF THE SORT BUT SHOWS ITS ORIGINALITY AND ECLECTICISM CLEARLY -
EVERYTHING IT CLAIMS CAN BE SHOWN TO RELATE TO EVERY OTHER
STATEMENT OR EVENT.  BUT, ONE HAS TO COLLECT THAT EVIDENCE IN
ORDER TO DEMONSTRATE THIS AS A FACT TO ONE'S SELF.

WHETHER ONE'S OPINION IS FOR OR AGAINST THIS IS OF COURSE NOT
UNDER DISCUSSION, AS OUR PERSONAL OPINIONS VARY - BUT, IF WE ARE
SEEKING "TR" THEN WHERE IS THERE A BETTER PLACE TO FIND IT ?

DALLAS



>There is much about the after death states in Theosophy,
>and it is on those plane(s)/states, that their beauty is.  It is
"the good,
>the true and the beautiful" which becomes part of the
reincarnating Ego and
>"lives" on.

Yes, but the "bad" and "false" and "ugly" lie waiting for us to
return.
So that part "lives" on as well.


DALLAS
THAT IS NOT ALL AS THE GOOD THE TRUE AND THE BEAUTIFUL, THE
FRIENDLY AND THE CONSTRUCTIVE OUTWEIGH ANY AMOUNT OF SICKNESS,
HORROR AND DISEASE.

WITHOUT KARMA AND REINCARNATION OUR EARTH WOULD INDEED BE A HELL
WITHOUT REDEMPTION, BUT THE FACT THAT THESE EXIST AND NATURE IS
FAIR AND JUST, AS WELL AS CONSTANTLY OFFERING OPPORTUNITIES FOR
IDEALS AND ALTRUISM TO MANIFEST - AS EACH ONE WILLS THEM BY THEIR
CHOICES - THIS IS THE POSITIVE ASPECT TO CONSIDER - RATHER THAN
GET BOGGED DOWN IN PESSIMISM -

Karma is called the doctrine of hope and reincarnation is the
method employed.



> In the Introductory they are a nosegay of FACTS, and there is
>no suggestion of "liking" or "preference."  "the string that
ties" may well
>be seen as discrimination.


Of source it is discrimination, and this implies liking and
preference.
Whenever anyone says that this is true while that is false, they
are
subjectively discriminating; picking and choosing. One would hope
that Adepts could do this better than us ordinary folks, but it
is
still picking and choosing nonetheless. And it is very obvious
from studying occult texts that different schools pick and choose
different flowers to string together.


DALLAS
AGAIN I SAY THAT THERE IS A VAST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PICKING WHAT
ONE LIKES OR DISLIKES - AND WHAT MAY BE THE BASIS FOR SUCH
DISCRIMINATION ? -

THE STUDY OF NATURE AND HER OPERATIONS IS SCIENTIFIC.  HOWEVER
WHEN WE GET TO STUDYING THE INTELLIGENCE OF MANKIND AND PERSONS
THEREIN WE BOG DOWN TO PERSONAL PREFERENCES.  I THINK WE OUGHT TO
INVESTIGATE OURSELVES AND OUR OWN PERSONAL LIKES AND DISLIKES,
AND THEN COMPARE THEM TO THE UNIVERSAL PRINCIPLES FROM WHICH THEY
ARE DERIVED, AND IN WHICH WE ALL SHARE AND PARTAKE.  ALSO, TO
FIND OUT WHAT WE PICK AND CHOOSE AS AN INDEX TO OUR OWN PERSONAL
NATURES.

I WONDER IF THIS IS OF HELP ?

DALLAS


Jerry S.