Theos-Talk Archives (November 1998 Message tt00344)

Well said Dallas.

If the membership of TS organizations and perhaps interest in theosophy is
dwindling, it is perhaps due to the lack of real altruism and sympathy for
suffering humanity ie fellow beings too much emphasis on spirituality and
all the mechanical details of human being and universe.

As even"Devil" can quote scriptures, it is human ingenuity that we can find
"theosophical" reason why some one is suffering. Any attempt to do so only
seem to show how shallow one's understanding of 101 of theosophy and TS.

At 11:07 AM 11/19/1998 -0800, you wrote:
>KARMA AND SYMPATHY
>
>Nov 19th 1998
>
>To think that theosophy ever advocated heard hearted indifference
>to anyone's suffering is incorrect.
>
>The cardinal object of theosophy is BROTHERHOOD.
>
>If we do not yet look on all others as brother-soul we fail in
>the first step in our own advance, regardless of how brilliantly
>we may be able to argue ourselves out of the responsibility that
>seeing and hearing places us in.
>
>Karma operates uniformly and takes into account the MOTIVE of our
>thought, word, and deed.  We think those are secret and for most
>they are but not for KARMA, which notes them all.  We think we
>are isolated and forget that the atoms, molecules and cells which
>we constantly borrow from Nature around us by various processes
>are also intelligent and they becomes the "carriers" of our
>KARMA.  As we use them, we shape them.  We imprint them
>magnetically with the electricity of our thoughts and feelings as
>ethical impressions.  They return to us when the time comes for
>the effect of our thought or deed or word is mature.  We have not
>been trained to think of think of this.  But Theosophy offers
>this proposition in regard to our being part of a living
>Universe.
>
>The VOICE OF THE SILENCE offers as an instance:  (p. 14)
>
>"Let thy Soul lend its eat to every cry of pain like as the lotus
>bears its heart to drink the morning sun.
>
>Let not the fierce Sun dry one tear of pain before thyself hat
>wiped it from the sufferer's eye.
>
>But let each burning human tear drop on thy heart and there
>remain;  nor ever brush it off until the pain that caused it is
>removed."
>
>( VOICE p. 38)
>
>"To perish doomed is he who out of fear of Mara fear of Mara
>refrains from helping man, lest he should act for Self...The
>selfish devotee lives to no purpose.  The man who does not go
>through his appointed work in life-has lived in vain."
>
>
>I hope this is of some help.
>
>Dallas
>
>From: M K Ramadoss
>Sent:	Wednesday, November 18, 1998 5:51 PM
>Subject: Re: Why Clinton must Die
>
>At 06:42 PM 11/18/1998 EST, JudeAce@aol.com wrote:
>>you are not a theospohist...when children die it is due to a
>past live
>>default..it is a shame children suffer but please be
>objective..theosophy is
>>the living science of spirtual evolution not the de-evolution of
>emotional
>>saga
>
>Yes. What a brilliant approach. Your explanation solves a lot of
>problems
>very very easily. When we see a man or woman or a child suffering
>and/or
>hungry we can easily close our eyes and hearts and take refuge in
>the
>explanation how their past karma is responsible for their current
>problems
>or suffering. And by their suffering they would be reducing their
>karma and
>it is very good for them.
>
>If we are just concerned with theosophy as a living science of
>spiritual
>evolution, then where does the first object of TS come into the
>picture? It
>is an interesting question to explore.
>
>mkr
>