Theos-Talk Archives (November 1998 Message tt00341)

Nov 19th 1998

Dear John:

You ask about Karma and my view of it.  In separate posts this
morning I have put in a good deal of the view that Theosophy
presents.  I hope that helps.

We all suffer from the early education of this incarnation which
has emphasized separateness to such a degree that we have
accepted that as a norm and we find it difficult now to agree to
see the collective and cooperative aspect of Nature in all its
operative details.  We could not live as physical men and women
if the cooperation of atoms, molecules, cells, etc... was not
consolidated under law.

Our science departmentalizes too much and while a thoughtful
person can see that all sciences are inter-related, most fail to
grasp the fact that this mosaic and lattice work is a uniformity
wherein the discord of separate free-will beings is harmonized.

There is no place for a uniformity of automatons or robots, but
there is a place for intelligent cooperators, who perceive the
needs of their surroundings and are determined to do their best
to make those pleasant - as even considering the selfish point of
view, that ease is the result of brotherhood and cooperation.
Who wants to fight battles every moment of the day and night?

If you are interested I can send you as an "attachment" a series
of quotes culled from theosophical sources on KARMA which give a
view of what has been taught concerning this fundamental matter.
Let me know.

Best wishes,

Dallas

> From: John Vorstermans
> Sent:	Wednesday, November 18, 1998 8:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Karma



"W. Dallas TenBroeck" wrote:
>
> Nov. 18th 1998
>
> All events are Karmic.

That is a very bold statement indeed.

Karmic law, as I currently understand it is a "moral" law.  It is
also
very difficult to understand when one is very much involved in
karma
itself, infact several wise sages have suggested that one cannot
really
learn to understand what karma is until we are no longer caught
within
its grip.  Then again I cannot understand how we cannot be caught
up in
it.

However what about cause and effect, is it the same as Karma?

If karma is a moral law then can animals have karma?

Be interested to hear what others understand by karma and cause
and
effect.

Cheers
John