Re: Re: re: Tony's msg
Nov 18, 1998 03:58 PM
by Alpha (Tony)
>
>In a message dated 11/18/98 4:27:10 AM, Tony wrote:
Just to say Tony didn't write this.
Tony.
>
><<>Most exoteric buddhism says alcohol should not be consumed but makes no
>>mention of any other drug.
>>Alcohol is the sacrament of the catholic church
>>so you can make your own inferences from that.
>
>Doss responded: You are so right!
>>>
>
>Not right, I'm afraid, at least on the limitation against alcohol. The better
>translation of the five precepts of "exoteric" Buddhism states that the devout
>Buddhist layperson is forbidden to take "intoxicants." *ALL* Buddhist
>traditions agree on this, at least in theory (some Zen teachers are known to
>take some sake, and some Tibetan lamas consider themselves free from mundane
>restrictions). Later elaborations on this prohibition make a specific mention
>of mind-altering drugs, for this is said to interfere with the development of
>inner reliance and focused, calm meditation.
>
>"Exoteric" Buddhists are NOT trying to induce fantastic mind-altering
>experiences, but to truly understand the here and now. Walking meditation is
>about nothing else than walking, the sensations of walking, noticing the
>arising and passing away of steps, thoughts, moments. Sitting meditation is
>about nothing else than sitting, the sensations of breathing, the arising and
>passing away of breaths, thoughts, moments.
>
>Rich
>
>
>
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