Theos-Talk Archives (November 1998 Message tt00279)

Nov 17th 1998


What difference does it make if HPB smoked ? When anyone can
write as she did then we may be of a stature to criticize.  I am
sorry to see so much time wasted on trivia and on trivial views.
Let's get on with the study of THEOSOPHY and forget about
personal matters.  What HPB did is a matter of History and not a
subject for opinions.

Dallas

> From: D. Porter
> Sent:	Tuesday, November 17, 1998 5:07 PM
> Subject: Re: re: Tony's msg

Most exoteric buddhism says alcohol should not be consumed but
makes no
mention of any other drug. Alcohol is the sacrament of the
catholic church
so you can make your own inferences from that.

A friend in need is a friend indeed,
A friend with weed is better




At 07:37 PM 11/16/98 -0600, you wrote:
>At 09:31 PM 11/16/1998 +0100, you wrote:
>MKR writes:
>
>>For example, there was this description of her smoking
>200 cigarettes a day and wearing a lose fitting dress with right
pocket
>full of cheap tobacco and left pocket full of cigarette papers
(she make
>her own cigarettes). Why did the Adepts use someone who did not
fit the
>traditionally held model of "holy" person? Does is not say
something? Look
>at APSinnet and AOHume.<
>
>
>An answer could be that all three, HPB, APS and AOH, were not
chelas in
>training in said time. Rules are for chelas and not for mundane
persons or
>accomplished chelas. Furthermore smoking was and is not
forbidden in the
>Eastern School, nevertheless this is a rule of a so-called ES of
one TS, but
>this was an invention after HPB's time, based of merely
half-knowledge. Two
>points that could solve the paradox (a paradox is not a
contradition).
>
>Frank
>====================================
>
>Thanks Frank. You may be right.
>
>On the other hand, there is the report regarding this person who
was
>claimed to have passed at least 2nd Great Initiation at the time
when there
>was frantic creation of Apostles. Most theosophists at that time
believed
>his passing the initiation.
>
>In a recently published material, it is reported he started
drinking
>alcohol to help his stomach pain and in due course of time, at
least once
>his host he was visiting asked him to leave because he was
drunk.
>
>While I have read about the abhorrence of HPB to alcohol, there
is this
>paradox of an initiate getting drunk.
>
>mkr
>
>
>