Theos-Talk Archives (November 1998 Message tt00160)

[Frank]:
>Very interesting statement. Is this a serious discussion or just a joke
I've
>not understood? Why is the soul not a soul? Why is a vehicle not a soul?
One
>can invent new labels but the teachings given down through all the ages up
>to HPB and her followers is the same.

What is your definition of soul, Frank? Everyone has one. Christians think
it
is what survives the physical body and goes to heaven or hell and pretty
much
looks like the physical body. Jung defines it as the personality (CW Vol 6 p
463)
and this is pretty much how it is viewed in modern psychology. Because
the everyday definition of soul is a living presence that resides within the
body, "body" or "vehicle" is a piss poor synonym. And no, that teaching
is NOT the same at all. It various with different occult schools.


>And as Annie Besant stated so well in
>a Lucifer article, that teachings HPB gave are called Theosophy, what she
>not taught or what is in contradiction to her teachings cannot be called
>Theosophy. To alter the terms is not only unfair to the newbees but is also
>Theosophy misunderstood.

All I can say to this kind of fundamentalistic thinking is bullshit.
(I am really trying to be nice, polite, and loving to one and all,
but this kind of stuff is really making it a challenge). HPB said
many many times that Theosophy has no doctrines or beliefs
and that we can be good Theosophists and believe anything
we want as long as we agree on universal brotherhood.


>Again I must help Dallas. Jerry, why do you always put under something?
>Dallas never wrote or meant that Kama is bad, that is your own
>misconception. All what he wrote was that kama is personal and selfish, and
>that is exactly correct.

If this is what Dallas was trying to say, then I stand corrected. But the
words that he usually chooses to express himself are misleading and
subject to interpretation, and I apparently often misunderstand. Both
you and Dallas are so intensely concerned with ethics and morals,
and right and wrong, that it often seeps out between your lines, perhaps
even when you don't consciously intend it.

Jerry S.