Theos-Talk Archives (November 1998 Message tt00007)

Jerry,I like what you've said because it means I'm an Adept!!! Wow! Cool
does this mean I get a special members card . But seriously for a moment,
In the latent empty state there must be a noumena that causes exit from the
state or re-entry into to the time-bound state of existence. Vriti in
Chetna I beleive the sanskrit is. Otherwise the universe could not have
initiated. If any one consciousness can achieve liberation then why are we
still all doing this existence stuff. Mark Kusek brought all this up
earlier with some excellent questions on Buddhism but I don't beleive he
got too many satisfactory answers.

My situation is this - I had a DE as opposed to an NDE, my consciousness
evaporated to nothing and I entered a void state. Then something and I
don't know what caused a faint emergence of consciousness again and I
rapidly spiralled back out of the state to find myself in an Out of Body
experience. Because I didn't have the necessary spiritual framework at the
time (it was a couple of years ago) I was basically suffereing
schizophrenia for the next few days. Thankfully I had the Tibetan book of
the dead to read and managed to heal myself completely (except for my
recurring delusions of granduer from having made yogic error and personally
associating this personality with the infinite).

This existence is analog , but beneath every moment is the digital. I also
would now consider myself a Nirmanakaya from definition given previously -
I returned from Nirvana because of my family.

Darren





At 08:21 AM 10/30/98 -0500, you wrote:
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>>Jerryy Wrote:
>>>sense. When we die, "real" details dissipate into their true nature which
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>>>emptiness.   Jerry S.
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>>I would also suggest though, that at the point of final or total
>>dissolution that there is still something which perceives the emptiness. Of
>>course this is my own humble opinion based on my own experiences.
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>>Darren
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>Agreed. Yes, there is. The only way to eliminate this "perceiver" is
>to enter mahanirvana or to leave our 7-plane system altogether.
>And, of course, the skandas and shistas or "karmic residue"
>remain as seeds for the next incarnation. But our sense of identity,
>which Dal wants to keep continuous, breaks during death for
>the vast majority of us (only Adepts can maintain this continuity)
>just as it does during our dreams.
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>Jerry S.
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