Theos-Talk Archives (August 1998 Message tt00311)

Comment on Paul J's comments:
           If one talks separately about Bill, Joan, and Suzy a hundred times
to someone else and doesn't mention that they each know each other, then you
can't assume that they do.    If one mentions just Once that they all know
each other, that is enough evidence to establish forever after that they do.
If Blavatsky mentions just once that all the adepts of a certain level that
she knew are part of a Brotherhood, then that is sufficient evidence to prove
forever after - if one believes she told the truth - that there is a
Brotherhood of Adepts.   It doesn't matter if she mentions separate Adepts a
hundred times again without mentioning the fact.
           K.H. mentions in the Mahatma Letters the he and Morya had different
methods of teaching - which would probably indicate that all adepts do, which
would also probably indicate that they were of different traditions, schools
within traditions, or no "tradition" proper at all.  So the fact that there
are different traditions isn't evidence in itself that there isn't an overal
unifiying school of thought and Brotherhood (which doesn't mean that ALL
adepts or occultists Blavatsky knew were memers of it.)

Swooning advocates of Chanellers:    I wonder if you guys - mostly Govert and
Bjorn it seems - think it is possible for a powerful messmeric force, via a
dugpa, black adept or ????  make you feel "high as a kite" and seemingly
spiritually inspired by your own succeptibility and its own mesmeric power?
Could a powerful hypnotist or mesmerizer induce whatever emotion in you that
he wanted?
Is this Possible?????
     There are strong emotional states that simulate spiritual states or
insights, but are not.   Too me,  I double-check with my reason and mind to
determine the source. To get "high" from a non-rational source (and these
chanellings are not rationally synchronous with original Adept sources.....)
would make me suspect as to if I was being duped (but as the song goes:  "If
it feels this good being used - Use me Up!"  And they do too!)
         I get "high" sometimes from reading Blavatsky - and it is because I
come across something that produces a REASONABLE and RATIONAL insight.  It
causes me to understand something, and the corresponding emotion follows.  The
mind should lead the emotions.  For the emotions to lead the mind (it feels
good so it must be true....) is degrading.
       In the relative world there are demonic forces and elementals (which
produce the corresponding emotions) and there are angelic forces and
elementals (which produce the corresponding emotions.)  Both are emotion-
states and sub-human,  and it is degrading for the human to submit himself to
forces inferior to himself.......

              -  Jake J.  ("He who yells into the void.")