Theos-Talk Archives (August 1998 Message tt00250)

>Dear Jerry:
>
>It seems clear that some comments on both sides are not melding.
>

Why must they?


>Where does HPB describe any "Abyss ?"
>

HPB writes:
"Exoterically it (i.e., the word 'Kshetra') means simply--"field,"
while esoterically it represents "the great abyss" of the
Kabalists, the chaos and the plane (cteis or yoni), in which
the creative energy implants the germ of the manifested universe.
In other words they are the Purusha and Prakriti of Kapila,
the blind and cripple producing motion by their union, Purusha
supplying the head and Prakriti the limbs" (The Theosophist,
Vol V, No. 5(53).

This short passage clearly indicates that she was well aware
of the Abyss of the Qabala (she would have had to). In the SD
she shows her cyclic Globes against the Qabalistic Sephiroth
and it is clear from that picture that the Abyss is located
at the top of the fourth plane. The only reason that I can give
for why Theosophists have been in the dark about the Abyss
all these years is that apparently they don't study much Qabala.
In the above passage, she indicates that the Abyss is actually
a cosmic yoni, and her sexual innuendo here is quite plain.


>In several places HPB indicates that all the effort done on this
>evolutionary side of manifestation (call it Mayavic if you will, since
>materially it is indeed not "permanent") is totally lost at the end of
>Manvantara ?  [ Particularly this is brought out in her brief article ISIS
>UNVEILED AND THE VISISHTADWAITA -- "Theosophist"  January 1886;  ULT HPB
>ARTICLES III- 265 ]
>

Why does your first sentence end with a question mark? I agree
that something survives each manvantara--its called the divine Monad
and it survives because it is located outside of space-time and outside
of our 7-plane solar system. Theosophists like to imagine that even
the divine monad evolves, but since it is outside of time, I can't see
how it, or anything else outside of time, can evolve (the word itself
means a progression over time and without time I cannot conceive
of any "progress").

I have already read HPB, Dallas, and I pretty much agree with her.
Your quotes are unnecessary. It is obviously your interpretation of
her writing that I have a problem with, as do you with mine.

Jerry S.