Theos-Talk Archives (August 1998 Message tt00191)

>NOS replies:
>I sid ONE TRUE INITIATION. There are many 'spiritual experiences' which the
>naive think are initiations - and yes one need not die to have a spiritual
>experience - but what of it?
>

Guess I'm pretty naive then.


>Unless you have died and I don't mean an NDE which is just another form of
>hallucination (albeit very inisghtful into the true nature of reality) and
>STOPPED COMPLETELY (laya state) - that is - all forms of change through
>thought - you will still be embedded in MAYA. All thoughtis Mayavic, all
>concepts are mayavic.
>

Guess what. Even after death we are still in Maya. Thoughts are alive
and well on the mental plane, which is where Devachan lies.


>For those interested in performing self-initiations I suggest reading the
>Rg Veda very thoroughly first and to understand what is meant by Vriti in
>Chetna (forgive my spelling if slightly out I have 3 books with different
>nomenclature). Then acquire some true SOMA. Do not attempt it by yourself
>though.
>

Self-initiations do not require a Rg Veda or any other book. I have
had many myself, but then I am very naive so they probably don't count
for much.


>But ask yourself, once I know everything and Understand completely (gnosis)
>what do I wnat then?
>


Then you will want to share it with others.

Jerry S.