Theos-Talk Archives (June 1998 Message tt00216)

June 8th

Dear Doss:

Well, I had not thought of that.  If they have had to wait this
long I am sure that no "directives" from the "Himalayas" will
come.

Taking the comment seriously for a moment:

I would opine that the Mahatmas leave it to the individuals who
are under Their training to make up their own minds, as part of
the great and ongoing tests of chelaship and the endeavors of the
chelas to make their own way and progress.

Why should the Mahatmas bother about some detail such as that --
use the 'phone, or mail a letter or now, use INTERNET.  Perhaps
instead of horses they use planes or helicopters !  Would it not
be reasonable to assume that they use the facilities of the times
all down the ages ?  Can you imagine the among of "power" that it
would require on the psychic side of Nature to transmit messages,
sounds, etc. ?  And when the technology of the age is amiable why
would they shirk that ?

"Self-devised ways and mans" are the path that each student has
to devise.  How can one better serve ?  That is the criterion.

Anything that is devised has both "good" and "bad" uses.  The
knife edge is motive -- is the time spent on learning and working
for one's own selfish enjoyment, or is it for the general
improvement of humanity?

Best wishes,            Dallas

Must be HPB's "sense of humor" peeking out

> Date: Sunday, June 07, 1998 9:19 AM
> From: "M K Ramadoss" <ramadoss@eden.com>
> Subject: Re: To Darren: internet lecture

>Resistance to technological change is not new. May be all the
devout ones
>are waiting for orders from Himalayas before being convinced to
move with
>technology. Let us see what happens.
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>mkr
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>At 10:51 PM 6/7/1998 +0900, you wrote:
>>Thoa as always the voice of reason. Yes I beleive it is just a
generation
>>gap situation. I offered to donate a computer to the library
but they were
>>more than happy to just continue with a manual card system. I
was hoping to
>>make some of the older members  a little less sacared and
daunted by
>>technology. I've managed to get my grandfather into computers
and he is mid
>>70's.
>>
>>I also think our lodge is very small only around 10-12 people
turn up for
>>the weekly lectures. If our wisdom is as 'correct' (or close
to) as we
>>beleive it to be we need to spread the teachings more. We need
to use the
>>latest technological tools and we ought to have a media prsence
if only in
>>the role of 'devils advocate' so as to get people thinking.
>>
>>Thanks for your input,
>>
>>as always
>>
>>Darren (#467) MI
>>
>>
>> At 10:59 PM 6/5/98 -0700, you wrote:
>>>Darren:
>>>>I've offered a course "The Internet and Theosophy :  A
beginners guide from
>>>>HPB to HPC, but the lodge doesn't seem to interested. They
find my
>>>>enthusiasm amusing for some reason.
>>>>
>>>>Oh well, if I make people happy thats fine by me. I'm worried
that there
>>>>are so many splinter factions on the meanings of the
teachings because of a
>>>>lack of true initiates. We are heading the way of the
christian Church -
>>>>thousands of interpretations, new ethics, our true purpose
clouded.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I see a synthesis of doctrines melding shortly
>>>
>>>Darren, you might want to ask Eldon about how to give a
lecture about the
>>>internet and theosophy.  I think Eldon already gave several
lectures on
>>>that topic.  I'm sure Eldon had several roadblocks along his
way.  I think
>>>you read, last week, about Eldon's internet failure (can't
remember the
>>>name, a magazine?)  His Theosophy World list was almost dead
for at least a
>>>year, and now it's hopping.
>>>
>>>Perhaps there's another way to get through to the lodge about
your serious
>>>intent.  On the other hand, they could be backwards when it
comes to the
>>>internet.    Perhaps there are people on this list who could
use your
>>>internet expertise to promote theosophy.
>>>
>>>It's too bad that the enthusiasm of the young is not being
used.  The thing
>>>that the young is lacking is knowledge of established customs,
and
>>>experience.  The former is good in that the young can see
beyond the rigid
>>>establishment, but bad in that the young do not know how to
deal with the
>>>establishment.  When you don't know how to deal with the
establishment, the
>>>establishment can be a big brick wall.
>>>
>>>Can you imagine the dynamism that would arise if the
establishment knows
>>>how to use the enthusiasm and the power of the young?  Young
people are
>>>idealistic and energetic.  Young people also attract other
young people.
>>>Instead of being afraid at the rowdiness and unconventionality
of the
>>>young, the establishment should flow with the tide and guide
it.  And guide
>>>it in a way that would not squelch the energy.  If the
establishment fails
>>>to do that, the young will go elsewhere that would fit with
their
>>>enthusiasm.  The establishment will end up with a bunch of
long time
>>>established folks gathering cobwebs.  When the older
generation dies, what
>>>then is left?  A slab of brick wall.
>>>
>>>Thoa :o)
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