Theos-Talk Archives (May 1998 Message tt00146)

May 5th

Mark:  What I am really driving at in my own thoughts, and which
I would like to place before you is:  "We" ourselves, as an
"Identity," are not any of the planes or states that we observe
or pass through, or make use of.

"We" are not them.

They are effects, situations, tools, components.

We are the detached observer.  If we lend our creative will to
any one of those "conditions," for the moment we "are" there, in
them, and participate.  When we are through, we withdraw, and
then, we can select (or fall) into another state or condition.
The "businessman" is one, the "artist" is another, and the
"family man in the bosom of his family," is a third, and so on --
kaleidoscopic changes --  but at the center is the One Eye, the
Seer, who knows what lenses he is looking through, and what
faculties he needs (or shapes to put his actions into) to work in
and through those changes.

We do have "problems" if we are unable to effect that withdrawal,
or change as we will it.

In this I sense that there is in the WILL a superior power to
that of the "desire."   And, who is the "Willer" within us ?

But, what do you think ?                        Dal

> From: "Mark Kusek" <mark@withoutwalls.com>
> Date: Tuesday, May 05, 1998 1:33 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: Theosophy in the mist

>W. Dallas TenBroeck wrote:
>>
>> Actually we bathe in the psychic, but do not have the acuity
or
>> sense to distinguish it from our feelings, our "intuitions,"
or
>> even our thoughts.
>
>We feel, we think, we know. I don't see a need to distinguish
that from
>the "psychic." It is "psyche."
>It's healthy to discriminate what thoughts are yours, which
feelings are
>someone elses, and whose knowledge you know.
>
>> I think that getting that ability through understanding is
>> valuable.  Then we can go further.
>
>I agree. It can help you know yourself better.
>
>> When we dream we "visit" a "plane" that is specially one of
the
>> "psychic" ones.  When we "day-dream" again, when we are beset
by
>> a mood or have a fit of anger, pity, remorse, envy, etc... all
>> examples of the psychic forces acting in and through us.
>
>It's also just ordinary life.
>
>Mark
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